From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>, linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Raphael Gault <raphael.gault@arm.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/9] libperf: Add libperf_evsel__mmap() Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:24:30 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20201021112430.GE2189784@krava> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKUK3ajL63dAs4KSPJ2VOJa9HKeiZ0AWNPhe=uvFE8zZA@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:11:47PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote: SNIP > > > > > > > > > > The mmapped read will actually fail and then we fallback here. My main > > > > > concern though is adding more overhead on a feature that's meant to be > > > > > low overhead (granted, it's not much). Maybe we could add checks on > > > > > the mmap that we've opened the event with pid == 0 and cpu == -1 (so > > > > > only 1 FD)? > > > > > > > > but then you limit this just for single fd.. having mmap as xyarray > > > > would not be that bad and perf_evsel__mmap will call perf_mmap__mmap > > > > for each defined cpu/thread .. so it depends on user how fast this > > > > will be - how many maps needs to be created/mmaped > > > > > > Given userspace access fails for anything other than the calling > > > thread and all cpus, how would more than 1 mmap be useful here? > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by fail in here.. you need mmap for each > > event fd you want to read from > > Yes, but that's one mmap per event (evsel) which is different than per > cpu/thread. right, and you need mmap per fd IIUC > > > in the example below we read stats from all cpus via perf_evsel__read, > > if we insert this call after perf_evsel__open: > > > > perf_evsel__mmap(cpus, NULL); > > > > that maps page for each event, then perf_evsel__read > > could go through the fast code, no? > > No, because we're not self-monitoring (pid == 0 and cpu == -1). With > the following change: > > diff --git a/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > b/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > index eeca8203d73d..1fca9c121f7c 100644 > --- a/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > +++ b/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ static int test_stat_cpu(void) > { > struct perf_cpu_map *cpus; > struct perf_evsel *evsel; > + struct perf_event_mmap_page *pc; > struct perf_event_attr attr = { > .type = PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE, > .config = PERF_COUNT_SW_CPU_CLOCK, > @@ -32,6 +33,15 @@ static int test_stat_cpu(void) > err = perf_evsel__open(evsel, cpus, NULL); > __T("failed to open evsel", err == 0); > > + pc = perf_evsel__mmap(evsel, 0); > + __T("failed to mmap evsel", pc); > + > +#if defined(__i386__) || defined(__x86_64__) || defined(__aarch64__) > + __T("userspace counter access not supported", pc->cap_user_rdpmc); > + __T("userspace counter access not enabled", pc->index); > + __T("userspace counter width not set", pc->pmc_width >= 32); > +#endif I'll need to check, I'm surprised this would depend on the way you open the event jirka > + > perf_cpu_map__for_each_cpu(cpu, tmp, cpus) { > struct perf_counts_values counts = { .val = 0 }; > > I get: > > - running test-evsel.c...FAILED test-evsel.c:40 userspace counter > access not supported > > If I set it to pid==0, userspace counter access is also disabled. > > Maybe there is some use for mmap beyond fast path read for > self-monitoring or what evlist mmap does, but I don't know what that > would be. > > Note that we could get rid of the mmap API and just do the mmap behind > the scenes whenever we get the magic setup that works. The main > downside with that is you can't check if the fast path is enabled or > not (though we could have a perf_evsel__is_fast_read(evsel, cpu, > thread) instead). > > Rob >
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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>, Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>, Raphael Gault <raphael.gault@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>, Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/9] libperf: Add libperf_evsel__mmap() Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:24:30 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20201021112430.GE2189784@krava> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKUK3ajL63dAs4KSPJ2VOJa9HKeiZ0AWNPhe=uvFE8zZA@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:11:47PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote: SNIP > > > > > > > > > > The mmapped read will actually fail and then we fallback here. My main > > > > > concern though is adding more overhead on a feature that's meant to be > > > > > low overhead (granted, it's not much). Maybe we could add checks on > > > > > the mmap that we've opened the event with pid == 0 and cpu == -1 (so > > > > > only 1 FD)? > > > > > > > > but then you limit this just for single fd.. having mmap as xyarray > > > > would not be that bad and perf_evsel__mmap will call perf_mmap__mmap > > > > for each defined cpu/thread .. so it depends on user how fast this > > > > will be - how many maps needs to be created/mmaped > > > > > > Given userspace access fails for anything other than the calling > > > thread and all cpus, how would more than 1 mmap be useful here? > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by fail in here.. you need mmap for each > > event fd you want to read from > > Yes, but that's one mmap per event (evsel) which is different than per > cpu/thread. right, and you need mmap per fd IIUC > > > in the example below we read stats from all cpus via perf_evsel__read, > > if we insert this call after perf_evsel__open: > > > > perf_evsel__mmap(cpus, NULL); > > > > that maps page for each event, then perf_evsel__read > > could go through the fast code, no? > > No, because we're not self-monitoring (pid == 0 and cpu == -1). With > the following change: > > diff --git a/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > b/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > index eeca8203d73d..1fca9c121f7c 100644 > --- a/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > +++ b/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c > @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ static int test_stat_cpu(void) > { > struct perf_cpu_map *cpus; > struct perf_evsel *evsel; > + struct perf_event_mmap_page *pc; > struct perf_event_attr attr = { > .type = PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE, > .config = PERF_COUNT_SW_CPU_CLOCK, > @@ -32,6 +33,15 @@ static int test_stat_cpu(void) > err = perf_evsel__open(evsel, cpus, NULL); > __T("failed to open evsel", err == 0); > > + pc = perf_evsel__mmap(evsel, 0); > + __T("failed to mmap evsel", pc); > + > +#if defined(__i386__) || defined(__x86_64__) || defined(__aarch64__) > + __T("userspace counter access not supported", pc->cap_user_rdpmc); > + __T("userspace counter access not enabled", pc->index); > + __T("userspace counter width not set", pc->pmc_width >= 32); > +#endif I'll need to check, I'm surprised this would depend on the way you open the event jirka > + > perf_cpu_map__for_each_cpu(cpu, tmp, cpus) { > struct perf_counts_values counts = { .val = 0 }; > > I get: > > - running test-evsel.c...FAILED test-evsel.c:40 userspace counter > access not supported > > If I set it to pid==0, userspace counter access is also disabled. > > Maybe there is some use for mmap beyond fast path read for > self-monitoring or what evlist mmap does, but I don't know what that > would be. > > Note that we could get rid of the mmap API and just do the mmap behind > the scenes whenever we get the magic setup that works. The main > downside with that is you can't check if the fast path is enabled or > not (though we could have a perf_evsel__is_fast_read(evsel, cpu, > thread) instead). > > Rob > _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-21 11:25 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-10-01 14:01 [PATCH v4 0/9] libperf and arm64 userspace counter access support Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] arm64: pmu: Add function implementation to update event index in userpage Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] arm64: perf: Enable pmu counter direct access for perf event on armv8 Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-13 18:06 ` Mark Rutland 2020-11-13 18:06 ` Mark Rutland 2020-11-19 18:35 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-19 18:35 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-19 19:15 ` Will Deacon 2020-11-19 19:15 ` Will Deacon 2020-11-20 20:03 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-20 20:03 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-20 22:08 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-20 22:08 ` Rob Herring 2020-12-02 14:57 ` Rob Herring 2020-12-02 14:57 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-07 0:17 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-07 0:17 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] tools/include: Add an initial math64.h Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] libperf: Add libperf_evsel__mmap() Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-14 11:05 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-14 11:05 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-16 21:39 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-16 21:39 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-19 20:15 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-19 20:15 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-20 14:38 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-20 14:38 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-20 15:35 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-20 15:35 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-10-20 17:11 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-20 17:11 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-21 11:24 ` Jiri Olsa [this message] 2020-10-21 11:24 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-11-05 16:19 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-05 16:19 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-05 22:41 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-11-05 22:41 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-11-06 21:56 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-06 21:56 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-11 12:00 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-11-11 12:00 ` Jiri Olsa 2020-11-11 14:50 ` Rob Herring 2020-11-11 14:50 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] libperf: tests: Add support for verbose printing Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] libperf: Add support for user space counter access Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] libperf: Add arm64 support to perf_mmap__read_self() Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] perf: arm64: Add test for userspace counter access on heterogeneous systems Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] Documentation: arm64: Document PMU counters access from userspace Rob Herring 2020-10-01 14:01 ` Rob Herring
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