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From: David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
To: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>
Cc: Julia Suvorova <jusual@redhat.com>,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci: Refuse to hotplug PCI Devices when the Guest OS is not ready
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:31:46 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201023143146.2a17e6d8@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC_L=vVi6ngD6j0sZ2uLZ-NHF2WGzKfiOvmsHxOZaBRv6FuBug@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:55:10 +0300
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David, Michael,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:56 PM David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com> wrote:
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> > > Probably the only way to handle for existing machine types.  
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> I agree
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> > > For new ones, can't we queue it in host memory somewhere?  
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> I am not sure I understand what will be the flow.
>   - The user asks for a hotplug operation.
>   -  QEMU deferred operation.
> After that the operation may still fail, how would the user know if the
> operation
> succeeded or not?
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> > I'm not actually convinced we can't do that even for existing machine
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> Is a Guest visible change, I don't think we can do it.

How is it a guest visible change?

> > So I'm a bit hesitant to suggest going ahead with this without
> > looking a bit closer at whether we can implement a wait-for-ready in
> > qemu, rather than forcing every user of qemu (human or machine) to do
> > so.
> 
> While I agree it is a pain from the usability point of view, hotplug
> operations
> are allowed to fail. This is not more than a corner case, ensuring the right
> response (gracefully erroring out) may be enough.
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> Thanks,
> Marcel
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David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
Principal Software Engineer, Virtualization, Red Hat

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-23  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-22 11:40 [PATCH] pci: Refuse to hotplug PCI Devices when the Guest OS is not ready Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 12:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 12:56   ` David Gibson
2020-10-22 13:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23  3:30       ` David Gibson
2020-10-22 13:55     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 14:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 14:10         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 14:32           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 14:50             ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 15:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23  3:49                 ` David Gibson
2020-10-23  6:47                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-23 15:54                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23 17:27                       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-26  6:38                         ` David Gibson
2020-10-26  9:17                         ` Peter Krempa
2020-10-26  6:35                     ` David Gibson
2020-10-23  6:26                 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-26  6:45                   ` David Gibson
2020-10-27 11:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 12:54                       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-27 13:02                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-28  3:34                           ` David Gibson
2020-10-28  3:31                         ` David Gibson
2020-10-28 15:39                           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-28 17:49                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 11:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23  3:31       ` David Gibson [this message]
2020-11-11 12:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-11-15 16:48   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-11-11 16:09 ` Roman Kagan
2020-11-15 16:43   ` Marcel Apfelbaum

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