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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 13:48:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201204214836.3rncqw5kox42b4i2@linux-p48b.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgxe-KAqR_y2jP58GthOYKk0YG=6gNxKHxVUJbG7z2CoQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 04 Dec 2020, Linus Torvalds wrote:

>On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 12:30 PM Bernd Edlinger
><bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>
>> >    perf_event_open  (exec_update_mutex -> ovl_i_mutex)
>
>Side note: this one looks like it should be easy to fix.
>
>Is there any real reason why exec_update_mutex is actually gotten that
>early, and held for that long in the perf event code?

afaict just to validate the whole operation early. Per 79c9ce57eb2 the
mutex will guard the check and the perf_install_in_context vs exec.

>
>I _think_ we could move the ptrace check to be much later, to _just_ before that
>
>         * This is the point on no return; we cannot fail hereafter.
>
>point in the perf event install chain..

Peter had the idea of doing the ptrace_may_access() check twice: first
lockless and early, then under exec_update_mutex when it mattered right
before perf_install_in_context():

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20200828123720.GZ1362448@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/

>
>I don't think it needs to be moved down even that much, I think it
>would be sufficient to move it down below the "perf_event_alloc()",
>but I didn't check very much.

Yeah we could just keep a single ptrace_may_access() check just further
down until it won't deadlock.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-04 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-03 20:09 [PATCH 0/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] rwsem: Implement down_read_killable_nested Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04  1:58   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-09 18:38   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] rwsem: Implement down_read_interruptible Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04  1:59   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-07  9:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 15:33       ` Waiman Long
2020-12-07 16:58         ` David Laight
2020-12-07 19:02           ` Waiman Long
2020-12-08  9:12             ` David Laight
2020-12-08 12:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 13:13                 ` David Laight
2020-12-08 15:34               ` Waiman Long
2020-12-08 16:23                 ` David Laight
2020-12-07 15:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-08 14:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 18:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-09 18:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-10 19:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-11  8:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Introduce rwsem_write_trylock() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Fold __down_{read,write}*() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Better collate rwsem_read_trylock() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38   ` [tip: locking/core] rwsem: Implement down_read_interruptible tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 16:08   ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-04 17:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04 19:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 20:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04 20:30           ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-04 20:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04 21:48               ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2020-12-05 18:05                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-07  9:15                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07  9:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 18:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-08  8:34                   ` [PATCH] perf: Break deadlock involving exec_update_mutex Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 18:37                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-10 18:38                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2020-12-10 19:40                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-05 17:43           ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 17:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 22:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04  1:56   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-04  4:54   ` Davidlohr Bueso

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