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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/9] memremap: add ZONE_DEVICE support for compound pages
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 06:33:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201209063350.GO7338@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7249cfd2-c178-2e6a-6b03-307a05f11785@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 09:59:19PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 12/8/20 9:28 AM, Joao Martins wrote:
> > Add a new flag for struct dev_pagemap which designates that a a pagemap
> 
> a a
> 
> > is described as a set of compound pages or in other words, that how
> > pages are grouped together in the page tables are reflected in how we
> > describe struct pages. This means that rather than initializing
> > individual struct pages, we also initialize these struct pages, as
> 
> Let's not say "rather than x, we also do y", because it's self-contradictory.
> I think you want to just leave out the "also", like this:
> 
> "This means that rather than initializing> individual struct pages, we
> initialize these struct pages ..."
> 
> Is that right?

I'd phrase it as:

Add a new flag for struct dev_pagemap which specifies that a pagemap is
composed of a set of compound pages instead of individual pages.  When
these pages are initialised, most are initialised as tail pages
instead of order-0 pages.

> > For certain ZONE_DEVICE users, like device-dax, which have a fixed page
> > size, this creates an opportunity to optimize GUP and GUP-fast walkers,
> > thus playing the same tricks as hugetlb pages.

Rather than "playing the same tricks", how about "are treated the same
way as THP or hugetlb pages"?

> > +	if (pgmap->flags & PGMAP_COMPOUND)
> > +		percpu_ref_get_many(pgmap->ref, (pfn_end(pgmap, range_id)
> > +			- pfn_first(pgmap, range_id)) / PHYS_PFN(pgmap->align));
> 
> Is there some reason that we cannot use range_len(), instead of pfn_end() minus
> pfn_first()? (Yes, this more about the pre-existing code than about your change.)
> 
> And if not, then why are the nearby range_len() uses OK? I realize that range_len()
> is simpler and skips a case, but it's not clear that it's required here. But I'm
> new to this area so be warned. :)
> 
> Also, dividing by PHYS_PFN() feels quite misleading: that function does what you
> happen to want, but is not named accordingly. Can you use or create something
> more accurately named? Like "number of pages in this large page"?

We have compound_nr(), but that takes a struct page as an argument.
We also have HPAGE_NR_PAGES.  I'm not quite clear what you want.
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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/9] memremap: add ZONE_DEVICE support for compound pages
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 06:33:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201209063350.GO7338@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7249cfd2-c178-2e6a-6b03-307a05f11785@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 09:59:19PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 12/8/20 9:28 AM, Joao Martins wrote:
> > Add a new flag for struct dev_pagemap which designates that a a pagemap
> 
> a a
> 
> > is described as a set of compound pages or in other words, that how
> > pages are grouped together in the page tables are reflected in how we
> > describe struct pages. This means that rather than initializing
> > individual struct pages, we also initialize these struct pages, as
> 
> Let's not say "rather than x, we also do y", because it's self-contradictory.
> I think you want to just leave out the "also", like this:
> 
> "This means that rather than initializing> individual struct pages, we
> initialize these struct pages ..."
> 
> Is that right?

I'd phrase it as:

Add a new flag for struct dev_pagemap which specifies that a pagemap is
composed of a set of compound pages instead of individual pages.  When
these pages are initialised, most are initialised as tail pages
instead of order-0 pages.

> > For certain ZONE_DEVICE users, like device-dax, which have a fixed page
> > size, this creates an opportunity to optimize GUP and GUP-fast walkers,
> > thus playing the same tricks as hugetlb pages.

Rather than "playing the same tricks", how about "are treated the same
way as THP or hugetlb pages"?

> > +	if (pgmap->flags & PGMAP_COMPOUND)
> > +		percpu_ref_get_many(pgmap->ref, (pfn_end(pgmap, range_id)
> > +			- pfn_first(pgmap, range_id)) / PHYS_PFN(pgmap->align));
> 
> Is there some reason that we cannot use range_len(), instead of pfn_end() minus
> pfn_first()? (Yes, this more about the pre-existing code than about your change.)
> 
> And if not, then why are the nearby range_len() uses OK? I realize that range_len()
> is simpler and skips a case, but it's not clear that it's required here. But I'm
> new to this area so be warned. :)
> 
> Also, dividing by PHYS_PFN() feels quite misleading: that function does what you
> happen to want, but is not named accordingly. Can you use or create something
> more accurately named? Like "number of pages in this large page"?

We have compound_nr(), but that takes a struct page as an argument.
We also have HPAGE_NR_PAGES.  I'm not quite clear what you want.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-08 17:28 [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm, sparse-vmemmap: Introduce compound pagemaps Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] memremap: add ZONE_DEVICE support for compound pages Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09  5:59   ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  5:59     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  6:33     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-12-09  6:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-09 13:12       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 13:12         ` Joao Martins
2021-02-20  1:43     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  1:43       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 11:24       ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 11:24         ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 20:37         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 20:37           ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 15:46           ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 15:46             ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 16:50             ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 16:50               ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 17:18               ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 17:18                 ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 18:18                 ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 18:18                   ` Dan Williams
2021-03-10 18:12           ` Joao Martins
2021-03-10 18:12             ` Joao Martins
2021-03-12  5:54             ` Dan Williams
2021-03-12  5:54               ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  1:24   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  1:24     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 11:09     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 11:09       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] sparse-vmemmap: Consolidate arguments in vmemmap section populate Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09  6:16   ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  6:16     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09 13:51     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 13:51       ` Joao Martins
2021-02-20  1:49   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  1:49     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 11:26     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 11:26       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] sparse-vmemmap: Reuse vmemmap areas for a given mhp_params::align Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:38   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:38     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] sparse-vmemmap: Reuse vmemmap areas for a given page size Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2021-02-20  3:34   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  3:34     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 11:42     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 11:42       ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 22:40       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 22:40         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 15:46         ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 15:46           ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] mm/page_alloc: Reuse tail struct pages for compound pagemaps Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2021-02-20  6:17   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  6:17     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 12:01     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 12:01       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] device-dax: Compound pagemap support Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] mm/gup: Grab head page refcount once for group of subpages Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 19:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09 11:05     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 11:05       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 15:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09 16:02         ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 16:02           ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 16:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09 17:27             ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 17:27               ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 18:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-09 18:14               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-09 19:08               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-10 15:43               ` Joao Martins
2020-12-10 15:43                 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09  4:40   ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  4:40     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09 13:44     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 13:44       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] mm/gup: Decrement head page " Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:28   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 19:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09  5:06     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  5:06       ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09 13:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09 12:17     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 12:17       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-17 19:05     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-17 19:05       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-17 20:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-17 22:34         ` Joao Martins
2020-12-17 22:34           ` Joao Martins
2020-12-18 14:25           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-19  2:06         ` John Hubbard
2020-12-19  2:06           ` John Hubbard
2020-12-19 13:10           ` Joao Martins
2020-12-19 13:10             ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:29 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] RDMA/umem: batch page unpin in __ib_mem_release() Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:29   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 19:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09 10:59     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 10:59       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-19 13:15       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-19 13:15         ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09  5:18   ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  5:18     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-08 17:29 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] mm: Add follow_devmap_page() for devdax vmas Joao Martins
2020-12-08 17:29   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-08 19:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09  8:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-09  8:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-09 11:19     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 11:19       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09  5:23   ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  5:23     ` John Hubbard
2020-12-09  9:38 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm, sparse-vmemmap: Introduce compound pagemaps David Hildenbrand
2020-12-09  9:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-09  9:52 ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-12-09  9:52   ` Muchun Song
2021-02-20  1:18 ` Dan Williams
2021-02-20  1:18   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-22 11:06   ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 11:06     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 14:32     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-22 14:32       ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 16:28   ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 16:28     ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 16:44     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 16:44       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 17:15       ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 17:15         ` Joao Martins
2021-02-23 18:15         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 18:15           ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 18:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-23 22:48         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 22:48           ` Dan Williams
2021-02-23 23:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-24  0:14             ` Dan Williams
2021-02-24  0:14               ` Dan Williams
2021-02-24  1:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-24  1:32                 ` Dan Williams
2021-02-24  1:32                   ` Dan Williams

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