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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Hao Xu <haoxu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 RESEND] iomap: set REQ_NOWAIT according to IOCB_NOWAIT in Direct IO
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:23:58 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201209212358.GE4170059@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bbfafcf-688c-bad9-c288-6478a88c6097@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 01:46:47PM +0800, JeffleXu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/7/20 10:21 AM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 05:44:56PM +0800, Hao Xu wrote:
> >> Currently, IOCB_NOWAIT is ignored in Direct IO, REQ_NOWAIT is only set
> >> when IOCB_HIPRI is set. But REQ_NOWAIT should be set as well when
> >> IOCB_NOWAIT is set.
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>
> >> Signed-off-by: Hao Xu <haoxu@linux.alibaba.com>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> I tested fio io_uring direct read for a file on ext4 filesystem on a
> >> nvme ssd. I found that IOCB_NOWAIT is ignored in iomap layer, which
> >> means REQ_NOWAIT is not set in bio->bi_opf.
> > 
> > What iomap is doing is correct behaviour. IOCB_NOWAIT applies to the
> > filesystem behaviour, not the block device.
> > 
> > REQ_NOWAIT can result in partial IO failures because the error is
> > only reported to the iomap layer via IO completions. Hence we can
> > split a DIO into multiple bios and have random bios in that IO fail
> > with EAGAIN because REQ_NOWAIT is set. This error will
> > get reported to the submitter via completion, and it will override
> > any of the partial IOs that actually completed.
> > 
> > Hence, like the recently reported multi-mapping IOCB_NOWAIT bug
> > reported by Jens and fixed in commit 883a790a8440 ("xfs: don't allow
> > NOWAIT DIO across extent boundaries") we'll get silent partial
> > writes occurring because the second submitted bio in an IO can
> > trigger EAGAIN errors with partial IO completion having already
> > occurred.
> > 
> > Further, we don't allow partial IO completion for DIO on XFS at all.
> > DIO must be completely submitted and completed or return an error
> > without having issued any IO at all.  Hence using REQ_NOWAIT for
> > DIO bios is incorrect and not desirable.
> 
> Not familiar with xfs though, just in curiosity, how do you achive 'no
> partial completion'? I mean you could avoid partial -EAGAIN by not
> setting REQ_NOWAIT, but you could get other partial errors such as
> -ENOMEM or something, as long as one DIO could be split to multiple bios.

If any part of a DIO fails, we fail the entire IO. When we split a
DIO into multiple bios and one reports an error, we don't know track
where in the IO it actually failed, we just fail the entire IO.

e.g. how do you report correct partial completion to userspace when
a DIO gets split into 3 pieces and the middle one fails? There are
two ranges that actually completed, but we can only report one of
them....

And, really, we still need to report that an IO failed to userspace,
because mission critical apps care more about the fact that an IO
failure occurred than silently swallowing the IO error with a
(potentially incorrect) partial IO completion notification.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04  9:44 [PATCH v3 RESEND] iomap: set REQ_NOWAIT according to IOCB_NOWAIT in Direct IO Hao Xu
2020-12-04 11:44 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-12-07  2:21 ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-07 23:40   ` Jens Axboe
2020-12-09 21:15     ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-10  2:33       ` JeffleXu
2020-12-08  5:46   ` JeffleXu
2020-12-09 21:23     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2020-12-10  1:55       ` JeffleXu
2020-12-10  5:18         ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-11  2:50           ` JeffleXu
2020-12-14  2:56             ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-15  9:43               ` JeffleXu
2021-04-02 14:32                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-02 16:26                   ` Jens Axboe

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