From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> Subject: Re: Aarch64 EXT4FS inode checksum failures - seems to be weak memory ordering issues Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:53:59 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210106115359.GB26994@C02TD0UTHF1T.local> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20210105154726.GD1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 03:47:26PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote: > Hi, Hi Russell, > This is an update on where I am with this long standing issue at the > current time. > > Since 5.4, I have been struggling with several of my ARM64 systems, of > different SoC vendors and differing filesystem media, were sporadically > reporting inode checksum failures on their root filesystems. The time > taken to report this has been anything between a few hours and three > months of uptime, making the problem unrealistic to bisect. > However, over the last couple of days, a way to reproduce it has been > found, at least for the LX2160A based system. Power down, leave the > machine powered off for some time. Power up, log in and run: > > while :; do sleep 5; find /var /usr /bin /sbin -type f -print0 | \ > xargs -0 md5sum >/dev/null; done I've just set this off on an Raspberry Pi 4 running a locally-built arm64 v5.10 defconfig. I'm using a SATA SSD mounted via a USB-SATA adapter. I'll try to give that a few reboots see if I can reproduce the issue. Just to check -- how is your ext4 fs mounted? Mine is mounted as: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) ... and are you using defconfig or something else? [...] > It is possible that it could be compiler related, but I don't see that; > if the "dmb oshld" were strong enough, then it should mean that the > subsequent reads to checksum the inode data after the inode data has > been DMA'd into memory should be reading the correct values from memory > already - but they aren't. And if changing "dmb oshld" to "dsb ld" means > that the code can then read the right values, that to me points fairly > definitively to a hardware problem. Just in case the compiler has some impact, can you way which compilers you've been using? On the rpi4 I'm using GCC 8.3.0 as packaged by Debian Buster (10.7). Thanks, Mark.
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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Aarch64 EXT4FS inode checksum failures - seems to be weak memory ordering issues Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:53:59 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210106115359.GB26994@C02TD0UTHF1T.local> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20210105154726.GD1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 03:47:26PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote: > Hi, Hi Russell, > This is an update on where I am with this long standing issue at the > current time. > > Since 5.4, I have been struggling with several of my ARM64 systems, of > different SoC vendors and differing filesystem media, were sporadically > reporting inode checksum failures on their root filesystems. The time > taken to report this has been anything between a few hours and three > months of uptime, making the problem unrealistic to bisect. > However, over the last couple of days, a way to reproduce it has been > found, at least for the LX2160A based system. Power down, leave the > machine powered off for some time. Power up, log in and run: > > while :; do sleep 5; find /var /usr /bin /sbin -type f -print0 | \ > xargs -0 md5sum >/dev/null; done I've just set this off on an Raspberry Pi 4 running a locally-built arm64 v5.10 defconfig. I'm using a SATA SSD mounted via a USB-SATA adapter. I'll try to give that a few reboots see if I can reproduce the issue. Just to check -- how is your ext4 fs mounted? Mine is mounted as: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) ... and are you using defconfig or something else? [...] > It is possible that it could be compiler related, but I don't see that; > if the "dmb oshld" were strong enough, then it should mean that the > subsequent reads to checksum the inode data after the inode data has > been DMA'd into memory should be reading the correct values from memory > already - but they aren't. And if changing "dmb oshld" to "dsb ld" means > that the code can then read the right values, that to me points fairly > definitively to a hardware problem. Just in case the compiler has some impact, can you way which compilers you've been using? On the rpi4 I'm using GCC 8.3.0 as packaged by Debian Buster (10.7). Thanks, Mark. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-06 11:54 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-01-05 15:47 Aarch64 EXT4FS inode checksum failures - seems to be weak memory ordering issues Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-05 15:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-05 18:27 ` Darrick J. Wong 2021-01-05 18:27 ` Darrick J. Wong 2021-01-05 19:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-05 19:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 11:53 ` Mark Rutland [this message] 2021-01-06 11:53 ` Mark Rutland 2021-01-06 12:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 12:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 13:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 17:20 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-06 17:20 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-06 17:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 17:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 21:04 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-06 21:04 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-06 22:00 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-06 22:00 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-06 22:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-06 22:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 13:16 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-07 13:16 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-07 13:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 13:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 16:27 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-01-07 16:27 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-01-07 17:00 ` Florian Weimer 2021-01-07 17:00 ` Florian Weimer 2021-01-07 21:48 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-07 21:48 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-07 22:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 22:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-07 22:41 ` Eric Biggers 2021-01-07 22:41 ` Eric Biggers 2021-01-08 8:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel 2021-01-08 8:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel 2021-01-07 22:27 ` Eric Biggers 2021-01-07 22:27 ` Eric Biggers 2021-01-07 23:53 ` Darrick J. Wong 2021-01-07 23:53 ` Darrick J. Wong 2021-01-08 8:05 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-08 8:05 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-08 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra 2021-01-08 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra 2021-01-08 10:31 ` Pavel Machek 2021-01-08 10:31 ` Pavel Machek 2021-01-07 21:20 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-07 21:20 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-08 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra 2021-01-08 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra 2021-01-08 9:26 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-08 9:26 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-08 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds 2021-01-08 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds 2021-01-08 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-08 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-08 21:20 ` Nick Desaulniers 2021-01-08 21:20 ` Nick Desaulniers 2021-01-08 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-08 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin 2021-01-12 13:20 ` Lukas Wunner 2021-01-12 13:31 ` Florian Weimer 2021-01-12 13:31 ` Florian Weimer 2021-01-12 13:46 ` David Laight 2021-01-12 13:46 ` David Laight 2021-01-12 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds 2021-01-12 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds 2021-01-14 13:13 ` Lukas Wunner
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