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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com, qais.yousef@arm.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,
	benbjiang@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Fix select_idle_cpu()s cost accounting
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 13:59:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210109135953.GF3592@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X/i+3G53+AH4FfM2@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 09:21:48PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 10:27:38AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > 1. avg_scan_cost is now based on the average scan cost of a rq but
> >    avg_idle is still scaled to the domain size. This is a bit problematic
> >    because it's comparing scan cost of a single rq with the estimated
> >    average idle time of a domain. As a result, the scan depth can be much
> >    larger than it was before the patch and led to some regressions.
> 
> > @@ -6164,25 +6164,25 @@ static int select_idle_cpu(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int t
> >  		 */
> >  		avg_idle = this_rq()->avg_idle / 512;
> >  		avg_cost = this_sd->avg_scan_cost + 1;
> > -
> > -		span_avg = sd->span_weight * avg_idle;
> > -		if (span_avg > 4*avg_cost)
> > -			nr = div_u64(span_avg, avg_cost);
> > -		else
> > +		nr = div_u64(avg_idle, avg_cost);
> > +		if (nr < 4)
> >  			nr = 4;
> 
> Oooh, could it be I simply didn't remember how that code was supposed to
> work and should kick my (much) younger self for not writing a comment?
> 
> Consider:
> 
>        span_weight * avg_idle               avg_cost
>   nr = ---------------------- = avg_idle / ----------
>                avg_cost                    span_weigt
> 
> Where: avg_cost / span_weight ~= cost-per-rq
> 

This would definitely make sense and I even evaluated it but the nature
of avg_idle and the scale it works at (up to 2*sched_migration_cost)
just ended up generating lunatic values far outside the size of the domain
size. Fitting that to the domain size just ended up looking silly too and
avg_cost does not decay. Still, in principle, it's the right direction,
it's just not what the code does right now.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-09 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14 16:48 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] select_idle_sibling() wreckage Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Fix select_idle_cpu()s cost accounting Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-15  3:36   ` Li, Aubrey
2020-12-15  7:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-15 11:45       ` Mel Gorman
2020-12-15 12:13       ` Li, Aubrey
2021-01-08 10:27       ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 13:01         ` Qais Yousef
2021-01-08 13:47           ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 13:41         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 14:40           ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 15:10             ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 16:14               ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-11 14:36                 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-11 15:58                   ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 19:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-09 14:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-11 14:39                 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 19:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 14:52                 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 20:21         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-09 13:59           ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] sched/fair: Make select_idle_cpu() proportional to cores Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-23 13:31   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Remove select_idle_smt() Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Merge select_idle_core/cpu() Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: SIS_PROP the idle core scan Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-16 12:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] select_idle_sibling() wreckage Li, Aubrey
2020-12-16 18:07   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-12-23 13:23     ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-04 15:40       ` Mel Gorman

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