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From: Richard Z X-Google-Original-From: Richard Z Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 23:27:57 +0100 To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Krzysztof Adamski , Oleksij Rempel , Baruch Siach , Russell King - ARM Linux , Daniel Tang , Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Jamie Iles , Barry Song , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Jonas Jensen , Marc Gonzalez , Hartley Sweeten , Lubomir Rintel , Neil Armstrong , Shawn Guo , Alex Elder , Alexander Shiyan , Koen Vandeputte , Hans Ulli Kroll , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Wei Xu , Steven Rostedt , Yoshinori Sato , Mark Salter , Michael Ellerman , Geert Uytterhoeven , Thomas Bogendoerfer Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead Message-ID: <20210113222757.GA6265@rz.localhost.localdomain> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 11:55:06PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > After v5.10 was officially declared an LTS kernel, I had a look around > the Arm platforms that look like they have not seen any patches from > their maintainers or users that are actually running the hardware for > at least five years (2015 or earlier). I made some statistics and lists > for my lwn.net article last year [1], so I'd thought I'd share a summary > here for discussion about what we should remove. As I found three > years ago when I removed several CPU architectures, it makes sense > to do this in bulk, to simplify a scripted search for device drivers, hea= der > files and Kconfig options that become unused in the process. >=20 > * m68k/{apollo,hp300,sun3,q40} these are all presumably dead and have not > seen updates in many years (atari/amiga/mac and coldfire are very much > alive) me and a few other guys are still running m68k/q40. I did not compile a new kernel for some time but will try. 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I made some statistics and lists > for my lwn.net article last year [1], so I'd thought I'd share a summary > here for discussion about what we should remove. As I found three > years ago when I removed several CPU architectures, it makes sense > to do this in bulk, to simplify a scripted search for device drivers, hea= der > files and Kconfig options that become unused in the process. >=20 > * m68k/{apollo,hp300,sun3,q40} these are all presumably dead and have not > seen updates in many years (atari/amiga/mac and coldfire are very much > alive) me and a few other guys are still running m68k/q40. I did not compile a new kernel for some time but will try. 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