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From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	jarkko@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, haitao.huang@intel.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/23] x86/sgx: Introduce virtual EPC for use by KVM guests
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:30:13 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210116113013.f2281b3ac20e6b5a558ceec1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YAIM8cRtW3Jn6FRD@google.com>

On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:45:21 -0800 Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, Kai Huang wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 07:39:44 -0800 Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > On 1/15/21 6:07 AM, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > >>From virtual EPC's perspective, if we don't force this in kernel, then
> > > > *theoretically*, userspace can use fork() to make multiple VMs map to the
> > > > same physical EPC, which will potentially cause enclaves in all VMs to behave
> > > > abnormally. So to me, from this perspective, it's better to enforce in kernel
> > > > so that only first VM can use this virtual EPC instance, because EPC by
> > > > architectural design cannot be shared.
> > > > 
> > > > But as Sean said, KVM doesn't support VM across multiple mm structs. And if I
> > > > read code correctly, KVM doesn't support userspace to use fork() to create new
> > > > VM. For instance, when creating VM, KVM grabs current->mm and keeps it in
> > > > 'struct kvm' for bookkeeping, and kvm_vcpu_ioctl() and kvm_device_ioctl() will
> > > > refuse to work if kvm->mm doesn't equal to current->mm. So in practice, I
> > > > believe w/o enforcing this in kernel, we should also have no problem here.
> > > > 
> > > > Sean, please correct me if I am wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > Dave, if above stands, do you think it is reasonable to keep current->mm in
> > > > epc->mm and enforce in sgx_virt_epc_mmap()?
> > > 
> > > Everything you wrote above tells me the kernel should not be enforcing
> > > the behavior.  You basically said that it's only a theoretical problem,
> > > and old if someone goes and does something with KVM that's nobody can do
> > > today.
> > > 
> > > You've 100% convinced me that having the kernel enforce this is
> > > *un*reasonable.
> > 
> > Sean, I'll remove epc->mm, unless I see your further objection.
> 
> It's probably ok.  I guess worst case scenario, to avoid the mm tracking
> nightmare for oversubscription, you could prevent attaching KVM to a virtual EPC
> if there is already a mm associated with the EPC, or if there are already EPC
> pages "in" the virt EPC.

Since we are not 100% certain oversubscription will be upstreamed, I think it
makes sense to address when we do it. For now, let us just drop it. 

Makes sense? Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-06  1:55 [RFC PATCH 00/23] KVM SGX virtualization support Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:55 ` [RFC PATCH 01/23] x86/sgx: Split out adding EPC page to free list to separate helper Kai Huang
2021-01-11 22:38   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  0:19     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12 21:45       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-13  1:15         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-13 17:05         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-06  1:55 ` [RFC PATCH 02/23] x86/sgx: Add enum for SGX_CHILD_PRESENT error code Kai Huang
2021-01-06 18:28   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 21:40     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12  0:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-11 23:32   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  0:16     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12  1:46       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-06  1:55 ` [RFC PATCH 03/23] x86/sgx: Introduce virtual EPC for use by KVM guests Kai Huang
2021-01-06 19:35   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 20:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-07  0:47       ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07  0:52         ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-07  1:38           ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07  5:00             ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-07  1:42     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07  5:02       ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-15 14:07         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-15 15:39           ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-15 21:33             ` Kai Huang
2021-01-15 21:45               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-15 22:30                 ` Kai Huang [this message]
2021-01-11 23:38   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  0:56     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12  1:50       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  2:03         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:55 ` [RFC PATCH 04/23] x86/cpufeatures: Add SGX1 and SGX2 sub-features Kai Huang
2021-01-06 19:39   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 22:12     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 22:21       ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 22:56         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 23:19           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-06 23:33             ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 23:56             ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 23:40         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 23:43           ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 23:56             ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 22:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-06 23:09     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07  6:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-08  2:00         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-08  5:10           ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-08  7:03             ` Kai Huang
2021-01-08  7:17               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-08  8:06                 ` Kai Huang
2021-01-08  8:13                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-08  9:00                     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-08 23:55                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-09  0:35                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-09  1:01                     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-09  1:19                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-11 17:54                     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-11 19:09                       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-11 19:20                         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-12  2:01                           ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12 12:13                           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-12 17:15                             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-12 17:51                               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-01-12 21:07                                 ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12 23:17                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-13  1:05                                     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-11 23:39   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-06  1:55 ` [RFC PATCH 05/23] x86/cpu/intel: Allow SGX virtualization without Launch Control support Kai Huang
2021-01-06 19:54   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 22:34     ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06 22:38       ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 06/23] x86/sgx: Expose SGX architectural definitions to the kernel Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 07/23] x86/sgx: Move ENCLS leaf definitions to sgx_arch.h Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 08/23] x86/sgx: Add SGX2 ENCLS leaf definitions (EAUG, EMODPR and EMODT) Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 09/23] x86/sgx: Add encls_faulted() helper Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 10/23] x86/sgx: Add helper to update SGX_LEPUBKEYHASHn MSRs Kai Huang
2021-01-06 19:56   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 11/23] x86/sgx: Add helpers to expose ECREATE and EINIT to KVM Kai Huang
2021-01-06 20:12   ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 21:04     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-06 21:23       ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-06 22:58         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 12/23] x86/sgx: Move provisioning device creation out of SGX driver Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 13/23] KVM: VMX: Convert vcpu_vmx.exit_reason to a union Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 14/23] KVM: x86: Export kvm_mmu_gva_to_gpa_{read,write}() for SGX (VMX) Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 15/23] KVM: x86: Define new #PF SGX error code bit Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 16/23] KVM: x86: Add SGX feature leaf to reverse CPUID lookup Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 17/23] KVM: VMX: Add basic handling of VM-Exit from SGX enclave Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 18/23] KVM: VMX: Frame in ENCLS handler for SGX virtualization Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 19/23] KVM: VMX: Add SGX ENCLS[ECREATE] handler to enforce CPUID restrictions Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 20/23] KVM: VMX: Add emulation of SGX Launch Control LE hash MSRs Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 21/23] KVM: VMX: Add ENCLS[EINIT] handler to support SGX Launch Control (LC) Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 22/23] KVM: VMX: Enable SGX virtualization for SGX1, SGX2 and LC Kai Huang
2021-01-06  1:58 ` [RFC PATCH 23/23] KVM: x86: Add capability to grant VM access to privileged SGX attribute Kai Huang
2021-01-06  2:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/23] KVM SGX virtualization support Kai Huang
2021-01-06 17:07 ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-07  0:34   ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07  0:48     ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-07  1:50       ` Kai Huang
2021-01-07 16:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-08  2:16           ` Kai Huang
2021-01-11 17:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-11 18:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-12  1:58     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  1:14   ` Kai Huang
2021-01-12  2:02     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-12  2:07       ` Kai Huang
2021-01-15 14:43         ` Kai Huang
2021-01-16  9:31           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-01-16  9:50             ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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