From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1l2hX1-0007e5-6S for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:30:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hWz-0007dT-Sl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:30:17 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::536]:42222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hWy-0002XO-0N for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:30:17 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id g24so4210758edw.9 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:30:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=JnkcyAS8AkrJbe16FcPAUNwn7PrBOciTN7Pmy8mvkAg=; b=gLX0igmMt9nbX+NVNdsiZ0oSWOc8n8ftMth4sdS/5v4rbf/ar2q4HaL8sLA8bUiEol D0bU6qivUBOpPBkQvqk3Y+dPTBlCR3DykDKUB92nOIMwKQrPt48CwVPdStoZvPBJirQ2 +Gs9TnuEXdk53TU6nONrg8GctFQGWre67sv8rP91CAEpn66bxwR447IOw9XBdgRr4iRT Ycv2FJWk3PufDrYN/c6YpNiMkpHPIGLmIqVOZIxeE1GulugMY2Cm5spQFFS+h2iXCtVi f58SxfGChAj9EFe29pR6ESVwzowGbzy54xgeausptPObiUfK1kOoRT/TwMZesS8ufc6g 1nDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=JnkcyAS8AkrJbe16FcPAUNwn7PrBOciTN7Pmy8mvkAg=; b=O2YXny3ZZWPkBNMXFzwhNHfMfFIpfBWsECOatCwCwsb2ygTpelEQ4+q7oIZFna3bYE cTWIK9+F8TmvSxI7FHP+4UlK0Knn/JdLRJxguoMtCaH2kYCmfQNfCmYN61r7MFsh3Xgh oiqRq7JaiE9AvRvCd+7UdcTb1FKvVVPCmlqrzFrcW8yeqyL/iQHcd/rXtQ3SwTHK4SXY V4NAx34wAr9PeGUCdVaOFV5coO6lMq1v6gghOgp4PwK04fzsaFLRaUCbbR+e8NO1dWQk qIJ56qfyI1LpvIatUCzOnNSgWfhL1pusI8xTIAFn7kpi6vcLaUt9isMPYWfg//gh/iUp wPcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533SEW2T7RVUCGw2XPDLI01AYycTDMOtoT5/qd3GskhKmuck9Rzp bSe1oiN71OMbi2DbFBqZTpk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzliuadPQl6+UHcJd41pbr7DcZFIskIVOHencfErPen3JTLlJhLqj764OjrrpuwdXCs5Yr6Yg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1398:: with SMTP id b24mr866816edv.108.1611264614088; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pevik ([62.201.25.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p27sm2783721ejd.72.2021.01.21.13.30.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:30:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 22:30:11 +0100 From: Petr Vorel To: Daniel Kiper Cc: Patrick Steinhardt , Dmitry , The development of GNU GRUB , Vladimir Serbinenko Subject: Re: IS: GRUB release cycle: WAS: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] argon2: Import Argon2 from cryptsetup Message-ID: <20210121213011.GB90324@pevik> Reply-To: Petr Vorel References: <20210119000758.GA178434@pevik> <20210119193103.GA44793@pevik> <20210121144927.4jleinwnstmevcpk@tomti.i.net-space.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210121144927.4jleinwnstmevcpk@tomti.i.net-space.pl> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::536; envelope-from=petr.vorel@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x536.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 21:30:18 -0000 Hi Daniel, [Cc Vladimir] ... > > > I don't really know about the release cycle, but personally I wouldn't > > > mind to accelerate it. That's only my two cents though as somebody who > > > hasn't been involved in the project that deeply. > > +1 (that would allow to greatly reduce number of patches in distros, but > > understand the lack of maintainers time). > I hope we will be able to release 2.06 in 2-3 months. Now I am looking > at cutting rc1 shortly. Expect it in the following weeks. That'd be great. > Definitely I do not want to make current release cycle a norm. I am > going to work on improving it after 2.06 release. I think we will be > targeting something between 6-12 months. Anything than current situation will be great. One would say that releasing more often with smaller diff would be better even for you as a maintainer, but maybe the amount work to test everything before the release is huge (given that testing e.g. Adrian does are probably done manually). Busy projects with enough maintainers and other community members which helps with reviewing and with working CI and good test coverage release every 3-4 months. It's clear that Grub isn't in that state, I wonder what could the community do to help you to improve the situation a bit. Kind regards, Petr > Daniel