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envelope-from=daniel.kiper@oracle.com; helo=userp2130.oracle.com X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:00:33 -0000 On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:30:11PM +0100, Petr Vorel wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > [Cc Vladimir] > ... > > > > I don't really know about the release cycle, but personally I wouldn't > > > > mind to accelerate it. That's only my two cents though as somebody who > > > > hasn't been involved in the project that deeply. > > > +1 (that would allow to greatly reduce number of patches in distros, but > > > understand the lack of maintainers time). > > > I hope we will be able to release 2.06 in 2-3 months. Now I am looking > > at cutting rc1 shortly. Expect it in the following weeks. > That'd be great. > > > Definitely I do not want to make current release cycle a norm. I am > > going to work on improving it after 2.06 release. I think we will be > > targeting something between 6-12 months. > Anything than current situation will be great. > One would say that releasing more often with smaller diff would be better even > for you as a maintainer, but maybe the amount work to test everything before the > release is huge (given that testing e.g. Adrian does are probably done manually). > > Busy projects with enough maintainers and other community members which helps > with reviewing and with working CI and good test coverage release every 3-4 > months. It's clear that Grub isn't in that state, I wonder what could the > community do to help you to improve the situation a bit. At this point we need help with testing and reviews. We want to be sure as much as possible that current code is in pretty good state and ready for release. WRT reviews, if you can see something on the list which is in the area of your expertise do not hesitate to review/comment. If you are not sure the maintainers will be OK with your comment just say that. We can add our comments later. These really help us to improve GRUB code. I am also working on getting more time for GRUB maintainer work. I hope I will manage to do that soon and will be able to clear current backlog quickly. Daniel