From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1l4UTR-0002fe-Og for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:58:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4UTO-0002fN-7j for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:57:58 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-x631.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::631]:45305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4UTL-00043w-T3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:57:57 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-x631.google.com with SMTP id ke15so24722653ejc.12 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:57:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=4RQ6nxnAeHAHyc/8E5v2WjEfctwllX/M4cBrKBHk/Z8=; b=RX3qL13hTJ7eDrG/+kM90Z5I43RT4V5OzpUtQGS6B2AUTfEIFUDebhH27GaZ3g6XaW s66N7bnnqKgts8diAFqN7dohLN3SroM55lS8AI9orKR4CajS+/UUGAkUm1AnRNzl4V4E NIO/McXRwZokbS+gzyvbSDMH78cuzsIo16I1x84Z7iUjdxhvjjG1k2gmO8oyXfIUDnDI 8gp7HXRvDSD//MV58EWQDyZzhcLGNCqG5jOp3BEHK8VdSpdTyf0G3sarL9jucq1nXlXm 2mgQ82Na+hAcgNKrqkDgv5ysrR1KN0L0+gghV/5EXM03LZckfSH1LTNFQqvXjTr8ixOd Gh+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=4RQ6nxnAeHAHyc/8E5v2WjEfctwllX/M4cBrKBHk/Z8=; b=fFM+qhv5bXxethmriIeLhQ98giyeLBzLrMzE3vo8dUngW44GHuKdiJodV9ch4uRe3u TNhLBSR+eN3SaiC2CQ4bcJZYWUeTxeMh1R/E4TAqBN1gs5UOHkTmJcG4zeniTmUQszsQ rn+QmkiLaAXpuTuB256d4FN/z6AiyeYIZqLXySK6rPL7n4ga0nfOsdOh1f/BJs6GFKuQ hL+RlmbGGVOapfEc5q+FrWYc4zHoMKZV/wimSam/4TghgK5e4h1ILalK4gRlffLTFxmi jI8A8cDMbpuR1Tuc/noE2Zsi+D6NkFRmbpExSNYDNeiUoK02hDxx9Fc8WDQnQutJEXUr J8Xw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5339ozCKSxbWhc5SrMRTWPtmF2lWCwBbHQR0c/VA3UdCdx+XJ3wb 2mQARo2fGyuhpJTefYhX1r8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRbSZiB/tkN8nbl5Q2YsKVqwGX+bv767I/Nu5pua+Ej7GO7XpT4vm260hl4SzZ6pxBcSgIsg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1f8b:: with SMTP id t11mr4445327ejr.224.1611691073066; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pevik ([62.201.25.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w17sm10263881ejk.124.2021.01.26.11.57.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:57:50 +0100 From: Petr Vorel To: Daniel Kiper Cc: Patrick Steinhardt , Dmitry , The development of GNU GRUB , Vladimir Serbinenko Subject: Re: IS: GRUB release cycle: WAS: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] argon2: Import Argon2 from cryptsetup Message-ID: <20210126195750.GA2623@pevik> Reply-To: Petr Vorel References: <20210119000758.GA178434@pevik> <20210119193103.GA44793@pevik> <20210121144927.4jleinwnstmevcpk@tomti.i.net-space.pl> <20210121213011.GB90324@pevik> <20210126130011.wfxrmb45yrfdx54m@tomti.i.net-space.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210126130011.wfxrmb45yrfdx54m@tomti.i.net-space.pl> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::631; envelope-from=petr.vorel@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x631.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:57:59 -0000 > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:30:11PM +0100, Petr Vorel wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > [Cc Vladimir] > > ... > > > > > I don't really know about the release cycle, but personally I wouldn't > > > > > mind to accelerate it. That's only my two cents though as somebody who > > > > > hasn't been involved in the project that deeply. > > > > +1 (that would allow to greatly reduce number of patches in distros, but > > > > understand the lack of maintainers time). > > > I hope we will be able to release 2.06 in 2-3 months. Now I am looking > > > at cutting rc1 shortly. Expect it in the following weeks. > > That'd be great. > > > Definitely I do not want to make current release cycle a norm. I am > > > going to work on improving it after 2.06 release. I think we will be > > > targeting something between 6-12 months. > > Anything than current situation will be great. > > One would say that releasing more often with smaller diff would be better even > > for you as a maintainer, but maybe the amount work to test everything before the > > release is huge (given that testing e.g. Adrian does are probably done manually). > > Busy projects with enough maintainers and other community members which helps > > with reviewing and with working CI and good test coverage release every 3-4 > > months. It's clear that Grub isn't in that state, I wonder what could the > > community do to help you to improve the situation a bit. > At this point we need help with testing and reviews. We want to be sure > as much as possible that current code is in pretty good state and ready > for release. WRT reviews, if you can see something on the list which is > in the area of your expertise do not hesitate to review/comment. If you > are not sure the maintainers will be OK with your comment just say that. > We can add our comments later. These really help us to improve GRUB code. Thanks for info! > I am also working on getting more time for GRUB maintainer work. I hope > I will manage to do that soon and will be able to clear current backlog > quickly. Good luck! > Daniel Kind regards, Petr