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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: thomas.lendacky@amd.com, ashish.kalra@amd.com,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	david.kaplan@amd.com, "James Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	jon.grimm@amd.com, tobin@ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	frankeh@us.ibm.com, Dov.Murik1@il.ibm.com, brijesh.singh@amd.com,
	dovmurik@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] sev: update sev-inject-launch-secret to make gpa optional
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:38:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210208093829.GB3032@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <263306b6-52c5-6da8-7f58-b639eb74c40d@redhat.com>

* Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 05/02/21 12:37, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:58:26AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 05/02/21 10:51, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > > +        if (!pc_system_ovmf_table_find(SEV_SECRET_GUID, &data, NULL)) {
> > > > > +            error_setg(errp, "SEV: no secret area found in OVMF,"
> > > > > +                       " gpa must be specified.");
> > > > > +            return;
> > > > > +        }
> > > > IIUC, historically QEMU has gone out of its way to avoid creating a
> > > > direct dependancy on specific firmware implementation details such
> > > > as this, so this whole approach makes me feel really uneasy.
> > > 
> > > The problem here is that this secret must be measured and therefore cannot
> > > be extracted by the guest out of fw_cfg.  Note that there's no reason why
> > > other firmware than OVMF could not adopt the same interface.
> > 
> > I didn't mean to store the secret in fw_cfg. Rather to use fw_cfg as a
> > way for OVMF to tell QEMU where to store it
> 
> I may be misunderstanding, but I think QEMU has to store it before OVMF
> runs, because the measurement is "sealed" when the VM starts.

Yes, that's correct, it's a feature of SEV and SEV-ES that the flow is:

  * measure data
  * attest
  * insert some encrypted data
  * Start execution

I would agree this code is pretty much tied to OVMF's weird GUID based
system when it's not needed; but there's no standard to follow here.

Dave

> Paolo
> 
-- 
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-08 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 19:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] sev: enable secret injection to a self described area in OVMF James Bottomley
2021-02-04 19:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] pc: add parser for OVMF reset block James Bottomley
2021-02-04 19:58   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-02-04 19:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] sev: update sev-inject-launch-secret to make gpa optional James Bottomley
2021-02-04 20:00   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-02-05  9:51   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-05 10:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-05 11:37       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-05 11:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-05 11:51           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-08  9:38           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2021-02-05 10:58 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] sev: enable secret injection to a self described area in OVMF Paolo Bonzini

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