From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F253C433E0 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DDD64E28 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230495AbhBPSg7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:36:59 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:44030 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230216AbhBPSg4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:36:56 -0500 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E113A64D73; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:36:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1613500569; bh=NFq5YCA7OAYMbJBNV5q6bpOyFcjr4mwojFFSOqQaw2c=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:From; b=Ofqtbw1dMiC6TuUWUG3Gykd4b/ITx7GV+RxQL91XLTM157BWsOonjRpPqUYR23NGl S8LTCjQlvaJgN3rmekKxiPMacKy+H0/8TGIzBvwCndHWm4Fptdrgu1eOUUy9zog6VJ xB5s1w/HwAqJHYCN4TjcaNOI5lZj2MO2/q2dr7X4dwg0mFZN7ou69BZjJflIRWaiBb SrtHvQ9XghND93hjYg/75uCCAcng3Xps9x5aEFl8sZzxmP1GsNg870SWzmW5g0sgnf 8LUKaJRzfanU/5s3zDXHPfXMOb2Zn/Ex6rsLo0PqH9umaZloSG1r0zmwFsOiYMm8B6 FY3AZqogfV+LQ== Received: by paulmck-ThinkPad-P72.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACF473523946; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:36:09 -0800 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: bigeasy@linutronix.de Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org Subject: Should RCU_BOOST kernels use hrtimers in GP kthread? Message-ID: <20210216183609.GA7027@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello, Sebastian, I punted on this for the moment by making RCU priority boosting testing depend on CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT, but longer term I am wondering if RCU's various timed delays and timeouts should use hrtimers rather than normal timers in kernels built with CONFIG_RCU_BOOST. As it is, RCU priority boosting can be defeated if any of the RCU grace-period kthread's timeouts are serviced by the non-realtime ksoftirqd. This might require things like swait_event_idle_hrtimeout_exclusive(), either as primitives or just open coded. Thoughts? Thanx, Paul