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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Tarun Gupta <targupta@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	cjia@nvidia.com, quintela@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	lushenming@huawei.com, Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	dnigam@nvidia.com, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	philmd@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] vfio: Make migration support non experimental by default.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:51:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210308155117.035c1408@omen.home.shazbot.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210308160949.4290-1-targupta@nvidia.com>

[Cc +Intel]

On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 21:39:49 +0530
Tarun Gupta <targupta@nvidia.com> wrote:

> VFIO migration support in QEMU is experimental as of now, which was done to
> provide soak time and resolve concerns regarding bit-stream.
> But, with the patches discussed in
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg784931.html , we have
> corrected ordering of saving PCI config space and bit-stream.
> 
> So, this patch proposes to make vfio migration support in QEMU to be enabled
> by default. Tested by successfully migrating mdev device.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tarun Gupta <targupta@nvidia.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  hw/vfio/pci.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/hw/vfio/pci.c b/hw/vfio/pci.c
> index f74be78209..15e26f460b 100644
> --- a/hw/vfio/pci.c
> +++ b/hw/vfio/pci.c
> @@ -3199,7 +3199,7 @@ static Property vfio_pci_dev_properties[] = {
>      DEFINE_PROP_BIT("x-igd-opregion", VFIOPCIDevice, features,
>                      VFIO_FEATURE_ENABLE_IGD_OPREGION_BIT, false),
>      DEFINE_PROP_BOOL("x-enable-migration", VFIOPCIDevice,
> -                     vbasedev.enable_migration, false),
> +                     vbasedev.enable_migration, true),
>      DEFINE_PROP_BOOL("x-no-mmap", VFIOPCIDevice, vbasedev.no_mmap, false),
>      DEFINE_PROP_BOOL("x-balloon-allowed", VFIOPCIDevice,
>                       vbasedev.ram_block_discard_allowed, false),

Looking back at the commit where this was added:

commit cf254988a50d4164c86a356c80b8d3ae0ccaa005
Author: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Date:   Mon Nov 9 11:56:02 2020 -0700

    vfio: Make migration support experimental
    
    Support for migration of vfio devices is still in flux.  Developers
    are attempting to add support for new devices and new architectures,
    but none are yet readily available for validation.  We have concerns
    whether we're transferring device resources at the right point in the
    migration, whether we're guaranteeing that updates during pre-copy are
    migrated, and whether we can provide bit-stream compatibility should
    any of this change.  Even the question of whether devices should
    participate in dirty page tracking during pre-copy seems contentious.
    In short, migration support has not had enough soak time and it feels
    premature to mark it as supported.
    
    Create an experimental option such that we can continue to develop.
    
    [Retaining previous acks/reviews for a previously identical code
     change with different specifics in the commit log.]
    
    Reviewed-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
    Acked-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
    Signed-off-by: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>


What has tangibly changed since then?  I think we have patches on-list
to address the known issue of PCI config space (MSI) ordering, which
related to enabling migration on ARM platforms.  Do we have
significantly more confidence in our ability to make compatible
enhancement to the migration bitstream?  This was a particularly
troublesome point for me if we have any hope of calling this
supportable.  As far as I know, there are still no open source vendor
drivers supporting migration for community testing.  We're also still
missing the documentation that was promised previously, as Connie noted.

Huawei and Intel, what's your confidence level and what can you share
regarding support for this implementation?  Thanks,

Alex



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08 16:09 [PATCH v1 1/1] vfio: Make migration support non experimental by default Tarun Gupta
2021-03-08 16:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-08 23:05   ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-08 16:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-08 22:51 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2021-03-12  2:12   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-12  2:47   ` Shenming Lu
2021-07-10  7:44 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-07-14 10:19   ` Kirti Wankhede
2021-07-22  0:42     ` Liang Yan

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