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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Net <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-NFS <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] mm/page_alloc: Add a bulk page allocator
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:46:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210312124609.33d4d4ba@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311084200.GR3697@techsingularity.net>

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:42:00 +0000
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 03:46:50PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:46:15 +0000 Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> >   
> > > This patch adds a new page allocator interface via alloc_pages_bulk,
> > > and __alloc_pages_bulk_nodemask. A caller requests a number of pages
> > > to be allocated and added to a list. They can be freed in bulk using
> > > free_pages_bulk().  
> > 
> > Why am I surprised we don't already have this.
> >   
> 
> It was prototyped a few years ago and discussed at LSF/MM so it's in
> the back of your memory somewhere. It never got merged because it lacked
> users and I didn't think carrying dead untested code was appropriate.

And I guess didn't push hard enough and showed the use-case in code.
Thus, I will also take part of the blame for this stalling out.


> > > The API is not guaranteed to return the requested number of pages and
> > > may fail if the preferred allocation zone has limited free memory, the
> > > cpuset changes during the allocation or page debugging decides to fail
> > > an allocation. It's up to the caller to request more pages in batch
> > > if necessary.
> > > 
> > > Note that this implementation is not very efficient and could be improved
> > > but it would require refactoring. The intent is to make it available early
> > > to determine what semantics are required by different callers. Once the
> > > full semantics are nailed down, it can be refactored.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > >
> > > +/* Drop reference counts and free order-0 pages from a list. */
> > > +void free_pages_bulk(struct list_head *list)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct page *page, *next;
> > > +
> > > +	list_for_each_entry_safe(page, next, list, lru) {
> > > +		trace_mm_page_free_batched(page);
> > > +		if (put_page_testzero(page)) {
> > > +			list_del(&page->lru);
> > > +			__free_pages_ok(page, 0, FPI_NONE);
> > > +		}
> > > +	}
> > > +}
> > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(free_pages_bulk);  
> > 
> > I expect that batching games are planned in here as well?
> >   
> 
> Potentially it could be done but the page allocator would need to be
> fundamentally aware of batching to make it tidy or the per-cpu allocator
> would need knowledge of how to handle batches in the free path.  Batch
> freeing to the buddy allocator is problematic as buddy merging has to
> happen. Batch freeing to per-cpu hits pcp->high limitations.
> 
> There are a couple of ways it *could* be done. Per-cpu lists could be
> allowed to temporarily exceed the high limits and reduce them out-of-band
> like what happens with counter updates or remote pcp freeing. Care
> would need to be taken when memory is low to avoid premature OOM
> and to guarantee draining happens in a timely fashion. There would be
> additional benefits to this. For example, release_pages() can hammer the
> zone lock when freeing very large batches and would benefit from either
> large batching or "plugging" the per-cpu list. I prototyped a series to
> allow the batch limits to be temporarily exceeded but it did not actually
> improve performance because of errors in the implementation and it needs
> a lot of work.
> 
> > >  static inline unsigned int
> > >  gfp_to_alloc_flags(gfp_t gfp_mask)
> > >  {
> > > @@ -4919,6 +4934,9 @@ static inline bool prepare_alloc_pages(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > >  		struct alloc_context *ac, gfp_t *alloc_mask,
> > >  		unsigned int *alloc_flags)
> > >  {
> > > +	gfp_mask &= gfp_allowed_mask;
> > > +	*alloc_mask = gfp_mask;
> > > +
> > >  	ac->highest_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask);
> > >  	ac->zonelist = node_zonelist(preferred_nid, gfp_mask);
> > >  	ac->nodemask = nodemask;
> > > @@ -4960,6 +4978,99 @@ static inline bool prepare_alloc_pages(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > >  	return true;
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > +/*
> > > + * This is a batched version of the page allocator that attempts to
> > > + * allocate nr_pages quickly from the preferred zone and add them to list.
> > > + */  
> > 
> > Documentation is rather lame.  Returns number of pages allocated...
> >   
> 
> I added a note on the return value. The documentation is lame because at
> this point, we do not know what the required semantics for future users
> are. We have two examples at the moment in this series but I think it
> would be better to add kerneldoc documentation when there is a reasonable
> expectation that the API will not change. For example, SLUB could use
> this API when it fails to allocate a high-order page and instead allocate
> batches of order-0 pages but I did not investigate how feasible that
> is. Similarly, it's possible that we really need to deal with high-order
> batch allocations in which case, the per-cpu list should be high-order
> aware or the core buddy allocator needs to be batch-allocation aware.
> 
> > > +int __alloc_pages_bulk_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, int preferred_nid,
> > > +			nodemask_t *nodemask, int nr_pages,
> > > +			struct list_head *alloc_list)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct page *page;
> > > +	unsigned long flags;
> > > +	struct zone *zone;
> > > +	struct zoneref *z;
> > > +	struct per_cpu_pages *pcp;
> > > +	struct list_head *pcp_list;
> > > +	struct alloc_context ac;
> > > +	gfp_t alloc_mask;
> > > +	unsigned int alloc_flags;
> > > +	int alloced = 0;
> > > +
> > > +	if (nr_pages == 1)
> > > +		goto failed;
> > > +
> > > +	/* May set ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT, fragmentation will return 1 page. */
> > > +	if (!prepare_alloc_pages(gfp_mask, 0, preferred_nid, nodemask, &ac, &alloc_mask, &alloc_flags))
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +	gfp_mask = alloc_mask;
> > > +
> > > +	/* Find an allowed local zone that meets the high watermark. */
> > > +	for_each_zone_zonelist_nodemask(zone, z, ac.zonelist, ac.highest_zoneidx, ac.nodemask) {
> > > +		unsigned long mark;
> > > +
> > > +		if (cpusets_enabled() && (alloc_flags & ALLOC_CPUSET) &&
> > > +		    !__cpuset_zone_allowed(zone, gfp_mask)) {
> > > +			continue;
> > > +		}
> > > +
> > > +		if (nr_online_nodes > 1 && zone != ac.preferred_zoneref->zone &&
> > > +		    zone_to_nid(zone) != zone_to_nid(ac.preferred_zoneref->zone)) {
> > > +			goto failed;
> > > +		}
> > > +
> > > +		mark = wmark_pages(zone, alloc_flags & ALLOC_WMARK_MASK) + nr_pages;
> > > +		if (zone_watermark_fast(zone, 0,  mark,
> > > +				zonelist_zone_idx(ac.preferred_zoneref),
> > > +				alloc_flags, gfp_mask)) {
> > > +			break;
> > > +		}
> > > +	}  
> > 
> > I suspect the above was stolen from elsewhere and that some code
> > commonification is planned.
> >   
> 
> It's based on get_page_from_freelist. It would be messy to have them share
> common code at this point with a risk that the fast path for the common
> path (single page requests) would be impaired. The issue is that the
> fast path and slow paths have zonelist iteration, kswapd wakeup, cpuset
> enforcement and reclaim actions all mixed together at various different
> points. The locking is also mixed up with per-cpu list locking, statistic
> locking and buddy locking all having inappropriate overlaps (e.g. IRQ
> disabling protects per-cpu list locking, partially and unnecessarily
> protects statistics depending on architecture and overlaps with the
> IRQ-safe zone lock.
> 
> Ironing this out risks hurting the single page allocation path. It would
> need to be done incrementally with ultimately the core of the allocator
> dealing with batches to avoid false bisections.
> 
> >   
> > > +	if (!zone)
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +
> > > +	/* Attempt the batch allocation */
> > > +	local_irq_save(flags);
> > > +	pcp = &this_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset)->pcp;
> > > +	pcp_list = &pcp->lists[ac.migratetype];
> > > +
> > > +	while (alloced < nr_pages) {
> > > +		page = __rmqueue_pcplist(zone, ac.migratetype, alloc_flags,
> > > +								pcp, pcp_list);
> > > +		if (!page)
> > > +			break;
> > > +
> > > +		prep_new_page(page, 0, gfp_mask, 0);  
> > 
> > I wonder if it would be worth running prep_new_page() in a second pass,
> > after reenabling interrupts.
> >   
> 
> Possibly, I could add another patch on top that does this because it's
> trading the time that IRQs are disabled for a list iteration.

I for one like this idea, of moving prep_new_page() to a second pass.
As per below realtime concern, to reduce the time that IRQs are
disabled.

> > Speaking of which, will the realtime people get upset about the
> > irqs-off latency?  How many pages are we talking about here?
> >   

In my page_pool patch I'm bulk allocating 64 pages. I wanted to ask if
this is too much? (PP_ALLOC_CACHE_REFILL=64).

The mlx5 driver have a while loop for allocation 64 pages, which it
used in this case, that is why 64 is chosen.  If we choose a lower
bulk number, then the bulk-alloc will just be called more times.


> At the moment, it looks like batches of up to a few hundred at worst. I
> don't think realtime sensitive applications are likely to be using the
> bulk allocator API at this point.
> 
> The realtime people have a worse problem in that the per-cpu list does
> not use local_lock and disable IRQs more than it needs to on x86 in
> particular. I've a prototype series for this as well which splits the
> locking for the per-cpu list and statistic handling and then converts the
> per-cpu list to local_lock but I'm getting this off the table first because
> I don't want multiple page allocator series in flight at the same time.
> Thomas, Peter and Ingo would need to be cc'd on that series to review
> the local_lock aspects.
> 
> Even with local_lock, it's not clear to me why per-cpu lists need to be
> locked at all because potentially it could use a lock-free llist with some
> struct page overloading. That one is harder to predict when batches are
> taken into account as splicing a batch of free pages with llist would be
> unsafe so batch free might exchange IRQ disabling overhead with multiple
> atomics. I'd need to recheck things like whether NMI handlers ever call
> the page allocator (they shouldn't but it should be checked).  It would
> need a lot of review and testing.

The result of the API is to deliver pages as a double-linked list via
LRU (page->lru member).  If you are planning to use llist, then how to
handle this API change later?

Have you notice that the two users store the struct-page pointers in an
array?  We could have the caller provide the array to store struct-page
pointers, like we do with kmem_cache_alloc_bulk API.

You likely have good reasons for returning the pages as a list (via
lru), as I can see/imagine that there are some potential for grabbing
the entire PCP-list.

 
> > > +		list_add(&page->lru, alloc_list);
> > > +		alloced++;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	if (!alloced)
> > > +		goto failed_irq;
> > > +
> > > +	if (alloced) {
> > > +		__count_zid_vm_events(PGALLOC, zone_idx(zone),
> > > alloced);
> > > +		zone_statistics(zone, zone);
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	local_irq_restore(flags);
> > > +
> > > +	return alloced;
> > > +
> > > +failed_irq:
> > > +	local_irq_restore(flags);
> > > +
> > > +failed:  
> > 
> > Might we need some counter to show how often this path happens?
> >   
> 
> I think that would be overkill at this point. It only gives useful
> information to a developer using the API for the first time and that
> can be done with a debugging patch (or probes if you're feeling
> creative). I'm already unhappy with the counter overhead in the page
> allocator. zone_statistics in particular has no business being an
> accurate statistic. It should have been a best-effort counter like
> vm_events that does not need IRQs to be disabled. If that was a
> simply counter as opposed to an accurate statistic then a failure
> counter at failed_irq would be very cheap to add.


-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-12 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-10 10:46 [PATCH 0/5] Introduce a bulk order-0 page allocator with two in-tree users Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/5] SUNRPC: Set rq_page_end differently Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/page_alloc: Add a bulk page allocator Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 23:46   ` Andrew Morton
2021-03-11  8:42     ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-12 11:46       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2021-03-12 13:44         ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-12 14:58         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-12 16:03           ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-12 21:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-13 13:16               ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-13 16:39                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-13 16:56                   ` Chuck Lever III
2021-03-13 19:33                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-14 12:52                       ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-14 15:22                         ` Chuck Lever III
2021-03-15 10:42                           ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-15 16:42                             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-03-19 17:10                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-03-12 12:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-12 14:15     ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] SUNRPC: Refresh rq_pages using " Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] net: page_pool: refactor dma_map into own function page_pool_dma_map Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] net: page_pool: use alloc_pages_bulk in refill code path Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 23:47 ` [PATCH 0/5] Introduce a bulk order-0 page allocator with two in-tree users Andrew Morton
2021-03-11  8:48   ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-12 15:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-11 11:49 [PATCH 0/5 v3] " Mel Gorman
2021-03-11 11:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/page_alloc: Add a bulk page allocator Mel Gorman
2021-03-11 16:42   ` Alexander Duyck
2021-03-11 16:42     ` Alexander Duyck
2021-03-12  7:32     ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-01 16:11 [PATCH 0/5] Introduce a bulk order-0 page allocator with two in-tree users Mel Gorman
2021-03-01 16:11 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/page_alloc: Add a bulk page allocator Mel Gorman
2021-03-09 17:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-09 18:10     ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-10 11:04   ` Shay Agroskin
2021-03-10 11:38     ` Mel Gorman
2021-03-12 12:01       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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