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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] init/initramfs.c: do unpacking asynchronously
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:33:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210315143356.ce87a0be2b4b2a273d6c49b9@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210313212528.2956377-2-linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 22:25:27 +0100 Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk> wrote:

> Most of the boot process doesn't actually need anything from the
> initramfs, until of course PID1 is to be executed. So instead of doing
> the decompressing and populating of the initramfs synchronously in
> populate_rootfs() itself, push that off to a worker thread.
> 
> This is primarily motivated by an embedded ppc target, where unpacking
> even the rather modest sized initramfs takes 0.6 seconds, which is
> long enough that the external watchdog becomes unhappy that it doesn't
> get attention soon enough. By doing the initramfs decompression in a
> worker thread, we get to do the device_initcalls and hence start
> petting the watchdog much sooner.
> 
> Normal desktops might benefit as well. On my mostly stock Ubuntu
> kernel, my initramfs is a 26M xz-compressed blob, decompressing to
> around 126M. That takes almost two seconds:
> 
> [    0.201454] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
> [    1.976633] Freeing initrd memory: 29416K
> 
> Before this patch, these lines occur consecutively in dmesg. With this
> patch, the timestamps on these two lines is roughly the same as above,
> but with 172 lines inbetween - so more than one cpu has been kept busy
> doing work that would otherwise only happen after the
> populate_rootfs() finished.
> 
> Should one of the initcalls done after rootfs_initcall time (i.e.,
> device_ and late_ initcalls) need something from the initramfs (say, a
> kernel module or a firmware blob), it will simply wait for the
> initramfs unpacking to be done before proceeding, which should in
> theory make this completely safe.
> 
> But if some driver pokes around in the filesystem directly and not via
> one of the official kernel interfaces (i.e. request_firmware*(),
> call_usermodehelper*) that theory may not hold - also, I certainly
> might have missed a spot when sprinkling wait_for_initramfs(). So
> there is an escape hatch in the form of an initramfs_async= command
> line parameter.

This seems sensible.  And nice.

Are you sure that you've found all the code paths that require that
initramfs be ready?  You have one in init/main, one in the bowels of
the firmware loader and one in UML.  How do we know that there are no
other such places?

Also, all this doesn't buy anything for uniprocessor machines.  Is
there a simple way of making it all go away if !CONFIG_SMP?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-15 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-13 21:25 [PATCH v3 0/2] background initramfs unpacking, and CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-13 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] init/initramfs.c: do unpacking asynchronously Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-15 20:21   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-03-15 21:33   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2021-03-15 21:59     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-07-24  7:46   ` Alexander Egorenkov
2021-07-26 11:46     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-07-27  7:31       ` Bruno Goncalves
2021-07-27 13:54         ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-07-27 14:12           ` Bruno Goncalves
2021-07-27 14:21             ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-07-27 14:27               ` Bruno Goncalves
2021-07-27 14:42                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-07-27 14:48                   ` Bruno Goncalves
2021-07-28 10:44                   ` Alexander Egorenkov
2021-07-28 10:38           ` Alexander Egorenkov
2021-07-28 10:36       ` Alexander Egorenkov
2021-07-28 11:49         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-13 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] modules: add CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-15 20:06   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-03-15 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] background initramfs unpacking, and CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Luis Chamberlain

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