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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Rimmer, Todd" <todd.rimmer@intel.com>,
	Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@cornelisnetworks.com>,
	"Wan, Kaike" <kaike.wan@intel.com>,
	"dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/9] A rendezvous module
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:46:26 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210323154626.GH2356281@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210323153041.GA2434215@infradead.org>

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 03:30:41PM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:57:20PM +0000, Rimmer, Todd wrote:

> > We'd like advise on a challenging situation.  Some customers
> > desire NICs to support nVidia GPUs in some environments.
> > Unfortunately the nVidia GPU drivers are not upstream, and have
> > not been for years.  So we are forced to have both out of tree and
> > upstream versions of the code.  We need the same applications to
> > be able to work over both, so we would like the GPU enabled
> > versions of the code to have the same ABI as the upstream code as
> > this greatly simplifies things.  We have removed all GPU specific
> > code from the upstream submission, but used both the "alignment
> > holes" and the "reserved" mechanisms to hold places for GPU
> > specific fields which can't be upstreamed.
> 
> NVIDIA GPUs are supported by drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/, and your are
> encourage to support them just like all the other in-tree GPU
> drivers.  Not sure what support a network protocol would need for a
> specific GPU.  You're probably trying to do something amazingly
> stupid here instead of relying on proper kernel subsystem use.

The kernel building block for what they are trying to do with the GPU
is the recently merged DMABUF MR support in the RDMA subsystem.

I'd like to think that since Daniel's team at Intel got the DMABUF
stuff merged to support the applications Todd's Intel team is building
that this RV stuff is already fully ready for dmabuf... (hint hint)

What Todd is alluding to here is the hacky DMABUF alternative that is
in the NVIDIA GPU driver - which HPC networking companies must support
if they want to interwork with the NVIDIA GPU.

Every RDMA vendor playing in the HPC space has some out-of-tree driver
to enable this. :(

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19 12:56 [PATCH RFC 0/9] A rendezvous module kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] RDMA/rv: Public interferce for the RDMA Rendezvous module kaike.wan
2021-03-19 16:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 18:42   ` kernel test robot
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] RDMA/rv: Add the internal header files kaike.wan
2021-03-19 16:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] RDMA/rv: Add the rv module kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] RDMA/rv: Add functions for memory region cache kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] RDMA/rv: Add function to register/deregister memory region kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] RDMA/rv: Add connection management functions kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] RDMA/rv: Add functions for RDMA transactions kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] RDMA/rv: Add functions for file operations kaike.wan
2021-03-19 12:56 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] RDMA/rv: Integrate the file operations into the rv module kaike.wan
2021-03-19 13:53 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] A rendezvous module Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 14:49   ` Wan, Kaike
2021-03-19 15:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 19:22       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-19 19:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 20:12           ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-19 20:26             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 20:46               ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-19 20:54                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 20:59                   ` Wan, Kaike
2021-03-19 21:28                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-19 21:58                       ` Wan, Kaike
2021-03-19 22:35                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 22:57                       ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-19 23:06                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-20 16:39                         ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-21  8:56                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-03-21 16:24                             ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-21 16:45                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-21 17:21                                 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-21 18:08                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-22 15:17                                     ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-22 16:47                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-22 17:31                                     ` Hefty, Sean
2021-03-23 22:56                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-23 23:29                                         ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-21 19:19                                   ` Wan, Kaike
2021-03-23 15:36                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 15:35                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 15:33                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 15:30                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 15:46                           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-03-23 16:07                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 17:25                               ` Rimmer, Todd
2021-03-23 17:44                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 20:18           ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-03-19 20:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 20:34       ` Hefty, Sean
2021-03-21 12:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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