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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
Cc: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Zhang, Tina" <tina.zhang@intel.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Kim, Dongwon" <dongwon.kim@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] Add support for Blob resources feature
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 09:43:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210415074307.6uohri7zjbiwjilm@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad10ac98a4f141e599c177bbab62982e@intel.com>

  Hi,

> But I get a feeling that it is inadequate as GTK/GLArea does not manage the wl_buffers
> submitted to the compositor -- EGL does. I suspect we either need to use a new GTK
> mechanism -- that perhaps does not exist yet -- or not use GTK at all for this.
> 
> I do understand that adding a new purely Wayland backend would make it redundant given
> that GTK, SDL, Spice, etc already support Wayland; however, I do not see any good options
> available for eliminating that blit.

Well, one idea is using dbus (discovery/setup) and pipewire (data
streams) to allow other applications access the guest display (also
audio, input, ...).  Simliar to gnome exporting the wayland display
that way for remote access and screen sharing.

pipewire supports using dmabufs, so that should allow to decouple user
interface code from qemu without making compromises on performance,
which is probably quite useful for a number of use cases, like a
zero-copy wayland client, or a client using drm directly.

Right now pipewire support is at "idea" level, there isn't even a
proof-of-concept for that.  So it surely doesn't help short-term, but
IMHO this makes alot of sense medium/long-term.

Marc-André has experimental code for a dbus-based UI for qemu.  It
doesn't use pipewire as data transport though.  At least the first
version posted a while ago @ qemu-devel doesn't.

take care,
  Gerd



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-15  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-31  3:09 [PATCH 00/11] Add support for Blob resources feature Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 01/11] ui: Get the fd associated with udmabuf driver Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 02/11] ui/pixman: Add qemu_pixman_to_drm_format() Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 03/11] virtio-gpu: Add udmabuf helpers Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 04/11] virtio-gpu: Add virtio_gpu_find_check_resource Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 05/11] virtio-gpu: Refactor virtio_gpu_set_scanout Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 06/11] virtio-gpu: Refactor virtio_gpu_create_mapping_iov Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 07/11] virtio-gpu: Add initial definitions for blob resources Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 08/11] virtio-gpu: Add virtio_gpu_resource_create_blob Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 09/11] virtio-gpu: Add helpers to create and destroy dmabuf objects Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] virtio-gpu: Add virtio_gpu_set_scanout_blob Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] virtio-gpu: Update cursor data using blob Vivek Kasireddy
2021-03-31  3:45 ` [PATCH 00/11] Add support for Blob resources feature no-reply
2021-03-31  5:18 ` Zhang, Tina
2021-04-13  6:10 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2021-04-14  9:45   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-14 21:26     ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2021-04-15  7:43       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2021-04-16  6:33         ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2021-04-16  7:56           ` Gerd Hoffmann

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