From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF257C43470 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 09:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89726008E for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 09:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231417AbhEKJih (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2021 05:38:37 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:52066 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230434AbhEKJif (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2021 05:38:35 -0400 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A14E161925; Tue, 11 May 2021 09:37:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1620725848; bh=6o759ShUxJ4M0iPoewavcBs0joP5lvg0/UyuatoupKw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=VmShZQzrJkNUYpzDiT8lkPsxOAMSd9Mve7i5gQll5qndGWVpx/umg+CXxAKGpoNMA r3FMkUmVknRLOM40Or9NWwNOL92NSwkHrq/d0ndNeQRTu32uCCDHx2IbSd5VG2b4ul nosZAixjCj57nhk32NpeqSVxAJnPk2eny4EB88KTc/gQGnVuXNqo0yWlzvNXSmu4ZF mRycl9aLbRnBPpCgKOBrtmqpOvb6P16yZBfRn67Vau0A0Tq2FleVuS/QpC4INaUcg7 P/ifJQg2MpIKloJneBuh4wLQ19EHMgDmJrDBTumwAHsRVeIkB/VjkEIaNgqi+q08au 3pae3xKzjvu8Q== Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:37:17 +0200 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: David Woodhouse , Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII Message-ID: <20210511113717.5c8b68f7@coco.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <2ae366fdff4bd5910a2270823e8da70521c859af.camel@infradead.org> <20210510135518.305cc03d@coco.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org Em Mon, 10 May 2021 15:22:02 -0400 "Theodore Ts'o" escreveu: > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:49:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 13:55 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: =20 > > > This patch series is doing conversion only when using ASCII makes > > > more sense than using UTF-8.=20 > > >=20 > > > See, a number of converted documents ended with weird characters > > > like ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE (U+FEFF) character. This specific > > > character doesn't do any good. > > >=20 > > > Others use NO-BREAK SPACE (U+A0) instead of 0x20. Harmless, until > > > someone tries to use grep[1]. =20 > >=20 > > Replacing those makes sense. But replacing emdashes =E2=80=94 which are= a > > distinct character that has no direct replacement in ASCII and which > > people do *deliberately* use instead of hyphen-minus =E2=80=94 does not= . =20 >=20 > I regularly use --- for em-dashes and -- for en-dashes. Markdown will > automatically translate 3 ASCII hypens to em-dashes, and 2 ASCII > hyphens to en-dashes. It's much, much easier for me to type 2 or 3 > hypens into my text editor of choice than trying to enter the UTF-8 > characters.=20 Yeah, typing those UTF-8 chars are a lot harder than typing -- and --- on several text editors ;-) Here, I only type UTF-8 chars for accents (my US-layout keyboards are=20 all set to US international, so typing those are easy). > If we can make sphinx do this translation, maybe that's > the best way of dealing with these two characters? Sphinx already does that by default[1], using smartquotes: https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/user/smartquotes.html Those are the conversions that are done there: - Straight quotes (" and ') turned into "curly" quote characters; - dashes (-- and ---) turned into en- and em-dash entities; - three consecutive dots (... or . . .) turned into an ellipsis char. So, we can simply use single/double commas, hyphens and dots for curly commas and ellipses. [1] There's a way to disable it at conf.py, but at the Kernel this is kept on its default: to automatically do such conversions.=20 Thanks, Mauro From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77FDC433B4 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 10:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from desiato.infradead.org (desiato.infradead.org [90.155.92.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2814C61933 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 10:51:27 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 2814C61933 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 May 2021 16:43:39 +0200 Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Jonathan Corbet , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, David Woodhouse X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" Em Mon, 10 May 2021 15:22:02 -0400 "Theodore Ts'o" escreveu: > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:49:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 13:55 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: =20 > > > This patch series is doing conversion only when using ASCII makes > > > more sense than using UTF-8.=20 > > >=20 > > > See, a number of converted documents ended with weird characters > > > like ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE (U+FEFF) character. This specific > > > character doesn't do any good. > > >=20 > > > Others use NO-BREAK SPACE (U+A0) instead of 0x20. Harmless, until > > > someone tries to use grep[1]. =20 > >=20 > > Replacing those makes sense. But replacing emdashes =E2=80=94 which are= a > > distinct character that has no direct replacement in ASCII and which > > people do *deliberately* use instead of hyphen-minus =E2=80=94 does not= . =20 >=20 > I regularly use --- for em-dashes and -- for en-dashes. Markdown will > automatically translate 3 ASCII hypens to em-dashes, and 2 ASCII > hyphens to en-dashes. It's much, much easier for me to type 2 or 3 > hypens into my text editor of choice than trying to enter the UTF-8 > characters.=20 Yeah, typing those UTF-8 chars are a lot harder than typing -- and --- on several text editors ;-) Here, I only type UTF-8 chars for accents (my US-layout keyboards are=20 all set to US international, so typing those are easy). > If we can make sphinx do this translation, maybe that's > the best way of dealing with these two characters? Sphinx already does that by default[1], using smartquotes: https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/user/smartquotes.html Those are the conversions that are done there: - Straight quotes (" and ') turned into "curly" quote characters; - dashes (-- and ---) turned into en- and em-dash entities; - three consecutive dots (... or . . .) turned into an ellipsis char. So, we can simply use single/double commas, hyphens and dots for curly commas and ellipses. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org List-ID: Em Mon, 10 May 2021 15:22:02 -0400 "Theodore Ts'o" escreveu: > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:49:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 13:55 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > This patch series is doing conversion only when using ASCII makes > > > more sense than using UTF-8. > > > > > > See, a number of converted documents ended with weird characters > > > like ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE (U+FEFF) character. This specific > > > character doesn't do any good. > > > > > > Others use NO-BREAK SPACE (U+A0) instead of 0x20. Harmless, until > > > someone tries to use grep[1]. > > > > Replacing those makes sense. But replacing emdashes ? which are a > > distinct character that has no direct replacement in ASCII and which > > people do *deliberately* use instead of hyphen-minus ? does not. > > I regularly use --- for em-dashes and -- for en-dashes. Markdown will > automatically translate 3 ASCII hypens to em-dashes, and 2 ASCII > hyphens to en-dashes. It's much, much easier for me to type 2 or 3 > hypens into my text editor of choice than trying to enter the UTF-8 > characters. Yeah, typing those UTF-8 chars are a lot harder than typing -- and --- on several text editors ;-) Here, I only type UTF-8 chars for accents (my US-layout keyboards are all set to US international, so typing those are easy). > If we can make sphinx do this translation, maybe that's > the best way of dealing with these two characters? Sphinx already does that by default[1], using smartquotes: https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/user/smartquotes.html Those are the conversions that are done there: - Straight quotes (" and ') turned into "curly" quote characters; - dashes (-- and ---) turned into en- and em-dash entities; - three consecutive dots (... or . . .) turned into an ellipsis char. So, we can simply use single/double commas, hyphens and dots for curly commas and ellipses. [1] There's a way to disable it at conf.py, but at the Kernel this is kept on its default: to automatically do such conversions. Thanks, Mauro