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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/22] xfs: add a perag to the btree cursor
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 17:55:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210513005508.GP8582@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210513001216.GA2893@dread.disaster.area>

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 10:12:16AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 03:40:06PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 05:20:43PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > Which will eventually completely replace the agno in it.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc.c          | 25 +++++++++++++++----------
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc_btree.c    | 13 ++++++++++---
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc_btree.h    |  3 ++-
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_btree.c          |  2 ++
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_btree.h          |  4 +++-
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_ialloc.c         | 16 ++++++++--------
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_ialloc_btree.c   | 15 +++++++++++----
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_ialloc_btree.h   |  7 ++++---
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_refcount.c       |  4 ++--
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_refcount_btree.c | 17 ++++++++++++-----
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_refcount_btree.h |  2 +-
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_rmap.c           |  6 +++---
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_rmap_btree.c     | 17 ++++++++++++-----
> > >  fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_rmap_btree.h     |  2 +-
> > >  fs/xfs/scrub/agheader_repair.c     | 20 +++++++++++---------
> > >  fs/xfs/scrub/bmap.c                |  2 +-
> > >  fs/xfs/scrub/common.c              | 12 ++++++------
> > >  fs/xfs/scrub/repair.c              |  5 +++--
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_discard.c               |  2 +-
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_fsmap.c                 |  6 +++---
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_reflink.c               |  2 +-
> > >  21 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 70 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc.c b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc.c
> > > index ce31c00dbf6f..7ec4af6bf494 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc.c
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/libxfs/xfs_alloc.c
> > > @@ -776,7 +776,8 @@ xfs_alloc_cur_setup(
> > >  	 */
> > >  	if (!acur->cnt)
> > >  		acur->cnt = xfs_allocbt_init_cursor(args->mp, args->tp,
> > > -					args->agbp, args->agno, XFS_BTNUM_CNT);
> > > +						args->agbp, args->agno,
> > > +						args->pag, XFS_BTNUM_CNT);
> > 
> > If we still have to pass the AG[FI] buffer into the _init_cursor
> > functions, why not get the perag reference from the xfs_buf and
> > eliminate the agno/pag parameter?  It looks like cursors get their own
> > active reference to the perag, so I think only the _stage_cursor
> > function needs to be passed a perag structure, right?
> 
> Because when I convert this to active/passive perag references, the
> buffers only have a passive reference and they can't be converted to
> active references.
>
> Active references provide the barrier that prevents high
> level code from accessing/entering the AG while a shrink (or other
> offline type event) is in the process of tearing down that AG. The
> process of tearing down the AG still may require the ability to
> read/write to the AG metadata (e.g. checking the AG is fully
> empty), so we still need the buffer cache to work while in this
> transient offline state. Hence we need passive reference counts for
> the buffers, because having cached buffers should not impact on the
> functioning of the high level "don't use this AG anymore" barrier.

Agreed; it's past time to shift the world towards the idea that one
grabs the incore object and only then starts grabbing buffers.  But even
if you've done it correctly:

	pag = xfs_perag_get_active(agno);
	xfs_alloc_read_agf(tp, ..., &agfbp);

Why not pass in just the buffer?

	cur = xfs_rmapbt_init_cursor(tp, agfbp, pag);

Is the idea here simply that we don't want to give people the idea that
they can just read the agf and pass it to xfs_rmapbt_init_cursor?  In
other words, the third parameter is there to give the people the
impression that pag and agfbp are both equally important tokens, and
that callers must obtain both and pass them in?  No monkeying around
with the buffer's passive reference by higher level code, at all, ever?
I guess I can live with that.  I might just be micro-optimising function
call parameter counts.  :P

--D

> And when we finally got to tear down the perag, we have to tear down
> the buffer cache for that AG, which means we have to wait until all
> the buffers have been reclaimed. Which will release all the
> references the buffers have on the perag, and so we know it is safe
> to tear down the perag because both the active reference count and
> the passive reference counts are zero.
> 
> IOWs, high level code needs an active reference for part of it's
> operation, it needs an active reference that covers the entire
> operation and this active reference has to be gained at a place
> where it can fail safely (e.g. where AGs are iterated). If we try to
> take an active reference from a buffer at random points in time,
> we'll end up with failures to get active references in spots were we
> cannot cleanly fail.
> 
> The example of xfs_allocbt_init_cursor() is that if could fail to
> get an active reference from the agbp inside a transaction that has
> already dirtied the AGFL. That then leads to an allocation failure
> with a dirty transaction and a shutdown.....
> 
> Basically, we take an active reference when we start the high level
> operation in an AG to protect it, and every other active reference
> that the operation takes must be derived from that same perag
> instance. Pulling the perag from the bp->b_pag pointer in high level
> code is a layering vioaltion - the only time this should ever happen
> is in IO verifiers where the passive buffer reference guarantees the
> validity of the perag for the buffer cache callouts.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06  7:20 [RFC 00/22] xfs: initial agnumber -> perag conversions for shrink Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 01/22] xfs: move xfs_perag_get/put to xfs_ag.[ch] Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 12:52   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11  7:18     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 22:28   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 02/22] xfs: prepare for moving perag definitions and support to libxfs Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 12:53   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11  7:19     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 03/22] xfs: move perag structure and setup to libxfs/xfs_ag.[ch] Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 22:26   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-10 23:38     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 04/22] xfs: make for_each_perag... a first class citizen Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 12:53   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11  7:35     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:29       ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11 21:33         ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 21:58           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 05/22] xfs: convert raw ag walks to use for_each_perag Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 12:54   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 06/22] xfs: convert xfs_iwalk to use perag references Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 13:41   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:08   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 07/22] xfs: convert secondary superblock walk to use perags Dave Chinner
2021-05-10 13:41   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 08/22] xfs: pass perags through to the busy extent code Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:29   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 09/22] xfs: push perags through the ag reservation callouts Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:29   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-13  0:29     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 22:16   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 10/22] xfs: pass perags around in fsmap data dev functions Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:23   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-18  1:00     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 11/22] xfs: add a perag to the btree cursor Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11 20:51     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-11 21:52       ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 12:49         ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:41           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-12 22:40   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-13  0:12     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-13  0:55       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2021-05-13  1:07         ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-13  3:49           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 12/22] xfs: convert rmap btree cursor to using a perag Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-13  3:54     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 13/22] xfs: convert refcount btree cursor to use perags Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:47   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 14/22] xfs: convert allocbt cursors " Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-13  3:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 15/22] xfs: use perag for ialloc btree cursors Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-13  3:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 16/22] xfs: remove agno from btree cursor Dave Chinner
2021-05-11 12:34   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-11 22:02     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 22:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 17/22] xfs: simplify xfs_dialloc_select_ag() return values Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 12:49   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 22:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 18/22] xfs: collapse AG selection for inode allocation Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 12:52   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-18  1:21     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 23:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-18  1:29     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 19/22] xfs: get rid of xfs_dir_ialloc() Dave Chinner
2021-05-06 11:26   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-06 11:26     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-06 11:26   ` [RFC PATCH] xfs: xfs_dialloc_ag can be static kernel test robot
2021-05-06 11:26     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-12 12:52   ` [PATCH 19/22] xfs: get rid of xfs_dir_ialloc() Brian Foster
2021-05-12 23:19   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 20/22] xfs: inode allocation can use a single perag instance Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 12:52   ` Brian Foster
2021-05-12 23:19   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 21/22] xfs: clean up and simplify xfs_dialloc() Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 21:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-18  1:46     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-06  7:20 ` [PATCH 22/22] xfs: use perag through unlink processing Dave Chinner
2021-05-12 21:37   ` Darrick J. Wong

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