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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	vkoul@kernel.org, megha.dey@intel.com, jacob.jun.pan@intel.com,
	ashok.raj@intel.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com, baolu.lu@intel.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 15/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: ims domain setup for the vdcm
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 13:57:54 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210531165754.GV1002214@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtsb3sth.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 04:02:02PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sun, May 23 2021 at 20:50, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 05:20:37PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote:
> >> @@ -77,8 +80,18 @@ int idxd_mdev_host_init(struct idxd_device *idxd, struct mdev_driver *drv)
> >>  		return rc;
> >>  	}
> >>  
> >> +	ims_info.max_slots = idxd->ims_size;
> >> +	ims_info.slots = idxd->reg_base + idxd->ims_offset;
> >> +	idxd->ims_domain = pci_ims_array_create_msi_irq_domain(idxd->pdev, &ims_info);
> >> +	if (!idxd->ims_domain) {
> >> +		dev_warn(dev, "Fail to acquire IMS domain\n");
> >> +		iommu_dev_disable_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_AUX);
> >> +		return -ENODEV;
> >> +	}
> >
> > I'm quite surprised that every mdev doesn't create its own ims_domain
> > in its probe function.
> 
> What for?

IDXD wouldn't need it, but proper IMS HW with no bound of number of
vectors can't provide a ims_info.max_slots value here.
 
Instead each use use site, like VFIO, would want to specify the number
of vectors to allocate for its own usage, then parcel them out one by
one in the normal way. Basically VFIO is emulating a normal MSI-X
table.

> > This places a global total limit on the # of vectors which makes me
> > ask what was the point of using IMS in the first place ?
>
> That depends on how IMS is implemented. The IDXD variant has a fixed
> sized message store which is shared between all subdevices, so yet
> another domain would not provide any value.

Right, IDXD would have been perfectly happy to use the normal MSI-X
table from what I can see.

> For the case where the IMS store is seperate, you still have one central
> irqdomain per physical device. The domain allocation function can then
> create storage on demand or reuse existing storage and just fill in the
> pointers.

I think it is philosophically backwards, and it is in part what is
motivating pretending this weird auxdomain and PASID stuff is generic.

The VFIO model is the IRQ table is associated with a VM. When the
vfio_device is created it decides how big the MSI-X table will be and
it needs to allocate a block of interrupts to emulate it. For security
those interrupts need to be linked in the HW to the vfio_device and
the VM. ie VM A cannot trigger an interrupt that would deliver to VM
B.

IDXD choose to use the PASID, but other HW might use a generic VM_ID.

Further, IDXD choose to use a VM_ID per IMS entry, but other HW is
likely to use a VM_ID per block of IMS entries. Ie the HW tree starts
a VM object, then locates the IMS table for that object, then triggers
the interrupt.

If we think about the later sort of HW I don't think the whole aux
data and domain per pci function makes alot of sense. You'd want a
domain per VM_ID and all the IMS entires in that domain share the same
VM_ID. In this regard the irq domain will correspond to the security
boundary.

While IDXD is probably fine to organize its domains like this, I am
surprised to learn there is basically no reason for it to be using
IMS.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-31 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-22  0:19 [PATCH v6 00/20] Add VFIO mediated device support and DEV-MSI support for the idxd driver Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 01/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add theory of operation documentation for idxd mdev Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 02/20] dmaengine: idxd: add external module driver support for dsa_bus_type Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 03/20] dmaengine: idxd: add IMS offset and size retrieval code Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 04/20] dmaengine: idxd: add portal offset for IMS portals Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 05/20] vfio: mdev: common lib code for setting up Interrupt Message Store Dave Jiang
2021-05-24  0:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-28  1:49     ` Dave Jiang
2021-05-28 12:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-28 16:37         ` Dave Jiang
2021-05-28 16:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-31 10:41             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-31 13:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-31 15:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-08 15:57     ` Dave Jiang
2021-06-08 17:22       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-10 13:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 06/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add PCI config for read/write for mdev Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 07/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: Add administrative commands emulation " Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v6 08/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: Add mdev device context initialization Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 09/20] vfio/mdev: Add mmio read/write support for mdev Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 10/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add mdev type as a new wq type Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 11/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: Add basic driver setup for idxd mdev Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 23:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-23 23:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 12/20] vfio: move VFIO PCI macros to common header Dave Jiang
2021-06-04  3:47   ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 13/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add mdev driver registration and helper functions Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 23:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-23 23:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 14/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add 1dwq-v1 mdev type Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 23:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 15/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: ims domain setup for the vdcm Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 23:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-27  0:22     ` Dave Jiang
2021-05-27  0:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-27  1:15         ` Dave Jiang
2021-05-27  1:41         ` Raj, Ashok
2021-05-27 13:36           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-31 14:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-31 16:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-05-31 23:55         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-06-01 12:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 16/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add new wq state for mdev Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 17/20] vfio/mdev: idxd: add error notification from host driver to mediated device Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v6 18/20] vfio: move vfio_pci_set_ctx_trigger_single to common code Dave Jiang
2021-05-22  0:21 ` [PATCH v6 19/20] vfio: mdev: Add device request interface Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 22:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-22  0:21 ` [PATCH v6 20/20] vfio: mdev: idxd: setup request interrupt Dave Jiang
2021-05-23 23:22 ` [PATCH v6 00/20] Add VFIO mediated device support and DEV-MSI support for the idxd driver Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-02 15:40   ` Dave Jiang
2021-06-02 23:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-03  1:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-03  1:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-03  5:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-03 11:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-04  3:40             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-07  6:22               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-07 18:13                 ` Dave Jiang
2021-06-07 19:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-08 16:02                     ` Dave Jiang
2021-06-11 18:21                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-06-11 18:29                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-07 18:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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