From: Dave Chinner <email@example.com> To: Johannes Weiner <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: Andrew Morton <email@example.com>, Roman Gushchin <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Tejun Heo <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:49:42 +1000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210617004942.GF2419729@dread.disaster.area> (raw) In-Reply-To: <YMmD9xhBm9wGqYhf@cmpxchg.org> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 12:54:15AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:20:08AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 02:50:09PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:26:40PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 05:19:04PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > > > > > @@ -1123,6 +1125,9 @@ static int __remove_mapping(struct address_space *mapping, struct page *page, > > > > > shadow = workingset_eviction(page, target_memcg); > > > > > __delete_from_page_cache(page, shadow); > > > > > xa_unlock_irq(&mapping->i_pages); > > > > > + if (mapping_shrinkable(mapping)) > > > > > + inode_add_lru(mapping->host); > > > > > + spin_unlock(&mapping->host->i_lock); > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. Inode locks have absolutely no place serialising core vmscan > > > > algorithms. > > > > > > What if, and hear me out on this one, core vmscan algorithms change > > > the state of the inode? > > > > Then the core vmscan algorithm has a layering violation. > > You're just playing a word game here. No, I've given you plenty of constructive justification and ways to restructure your patches to acheive what you say needs to be done. You're the one that is rejecting any proposal I make outright and making unjustified claims that "I don't understand this code". Serious, Johannes, I understand how the inode cache shrinkers work better than most people out there, and for you to just reject my comments and suggestions outright with "you don't understand this stuff so go learn about it' is pretty obnoxious and toxic behaviour. I haven't disagreed at all with what you are trying to do, nor do I think that being more selective about how we track inodes on the LRUs is a bad thing. What I'm commenting on is that the proposed changes are *really bad code*. If you can work out a *clean* way to move inodes onto the LRU when they are dirty then I'm all for it. But sprinkling inode->i_lock all over the mm/ subsystem and then adding seemling randomly placed inode lru manipulations isn't the way to do it. You should consider centralising all the work involved marking a mapping clean somewhere inside the mm/ code. Then add a single callout that does the inode LRU work, similar to how the fs-writeback.c code does it when the inode is marked clean by inode_sync_complete(). IOWs, if you can't accept that there are problems with your approach nor accept that it needs to be improved because *I* said there are problems (and it seems that you mostly only react this way when *I* happen to say "needs improvement"), then you need to go take a good hard look at yourself. Fix up your code so that it is acceptible to reviewers - telling reviewers they don't know shit is a sure way to piss people off unnecesarily. It doesn't make you look very good at all, and it makes other people think twice about wanting to review your code or work with you in future. So, again, until you see fit to be stop being obnoxious and toxic and that your patches need work before they are acceptible for merging, I maintain my NACK on this patch as it standsi and I am complete done with this discusion. -Dave. -- Dave Chinner firstname.lastname@example.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-17 0:49 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-06-14 21:19 [PATCH 1/4] mm: remove irqsave/restore locking from contexts with irqs enabled Johannes Weiner 2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: drop_caches: fix skipping over shadow cache inodes Johannes Weiner 2021-06-14 22:31 ` Roman Gushchin 2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: inode: count invalidated shadow pages in pginodesteal Johannes Weiner 2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU Johannes Weiner 2021-06-14 21:59 ` Andrew Morton 2021-06-14 22:41 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-15 6:26 ` Dave Chinner 2021-06-15 18:50 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-16 1:20 ` Dave Chinner 2021-06-16 4:54 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-17 0:49 ` Dave Chinner [this message] 2021-06-18 16:45 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-28 18:58 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-17 1:30 ` Andrew Morton 2021-06-18 17:09 ` Johannes Weiner 2021-06-28 17:12 ` Johannes Weiner
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