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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Schoenebeck" <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"José Ricardo Ziviani" <jose.ziviani@suse.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:37:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210617053759.uibvdpu2wtq3fqwv@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bdf9b356-87ee-0749-c977-f48989fa8e26@suse.de>

  Hi,

> >> However, please correct me if I'm wrong, I understand that an accelerator as a 
> >> module will add an overhead that some user won't be willing to pay. So, give 
> >> them the option to have built-in accelerators seems a good idea.
> > 
> > Modules add some overhead, yes, and there are surely use-cases where you
> 
> Where do we expect the overhead to be, and of which nature?

The dynamic linking needed then when loading the module adds a bit of
overhead (compared to static linked code).  Increases qemu start time
a bit.

On the other hand the start overhead can be reduced by modules,
specifically for the case that a module depends on shared libraries and
is *not* needed.  With for example gtk being modular the gtk shared
libraries (plus indirect dependencies like pango, cairo etc) are only
loaded when you actually use gtk, whereas a non-modular build would load
them no matter what.

The code reorganization needed for modularization can add some overhead
too, when using function pointers instead of direct calls for example
(see QemuSpiceOps).  That overhead doesn't go away when you do a
non-modular build though ...

take care,
  Gerd



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17  5:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10 10:15 [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] modules: factor out arch check Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] modules: check arch on qom lookup Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] modules: target-specific module build infrastructure Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] modules: build virtio-9p modular Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules Claudio Fontana
2021-06-10 12:23   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 13:10     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 13:12     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-11  7:35       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-06-11  8:29         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-11 13:03           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-11 13:17             ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-14 22:19             ` José Ricardo Ziviani
2021-06-15  5:09               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-15 15:48                 ` José Ricardo Ziviani
2021-06-16  9:28                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-16 12:23                     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-17  5:37                       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2021-06-17  7:48                         ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-17  9:48                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-17 10:07                             ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-11 17:14           ` Paolo Bonzini

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