On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 04:45:48PM -0700, raghu.ncstate@icloud.com wrote: [snip] > I also think it is incorrect to partition platforms into what u-boot/linux boot/embdedded systems do and what “UEFI/private code” does. UEFI is a huge part of the ARM eco-system and is being used fairly extensively and supported across different markets and is not private code. I don't think "u-boot/linux boot/embedded systems" vs "UEFI/private code" is the right distinction. It's "device tree/related" vs "ACPI/related" as the difference between U-Boot (for example) and EDK II (for another example) on aarch64 booting a system via EFI is that U-Boot is likely to be passing in a device tree (setting aside what we can do on x86 as a digression) and EDK II being likely to pass ACPI/related. In both cases we can quite easily be talking about all of the data having been written to persistent flash and automatically passed along. To riff on a phrase, U-Boot can be quite boring too. -- Tom