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From: Amey Narkhede <ameynarkhede03@gmail.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	Raphael Norwitz <raphael.norwitz@nutanix.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kw@linux.com, Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Sinan Kaya <okaya@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/8] PCI/sysfs: Allow userspace to query and set device reset mechanism
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 22:58:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210621172854.3ycsprg2wwx45xgm@archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210621130135.GA3288360@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On 21/06/21 08:01AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 07:29:20PM +0530, Amey Narkhede wrote:
> > On 21/06/18 03:00PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 11:18:53AM +0530, Amey Narkhede wrote:
> > > > Add reset_method sysfs attribute to enable user to
> > > > query and set user preferred device reset methods and
> > > > their ordering.
>
> > > > +	if (sysfs_streq(options, "default")) {
> > > > +		for (i = 0; i < PCI_RESET_METHODS_NUM; i++)
> > > > +			reset_methods[i] = reset_methods[i] ? prio-- : 0;
> > > > +		goto set_reset_methods;
> > > > +	}
> > >
> > > If you use pci_init_reset_methods() here, you can also get this case
> > > out of the way early.
> > >
> > The problem with alternate encoding is we won't be able to know if
> > one of the reset methods was disabled previously. For example,
> >
> > # cat reset_methods
> > flr,bus 			# dev->reset_methods = [3, 5, 0, ...]
> > # echo bus > reset_methods 	# dev->reset_methods = [5, 0, 0, ...]
> > # cat reset_methods
> > bus
> >
> > Now if an user wants to enable flr
> >
> > # echo flr > reset_methods 	# dev->reset_methods = [3, 0, 0, ...]
> > OR
> > # echo bus,flr > reset_methods 	# dev->reset_methods = [5, 3, 0, ...]
> >
> > either they need to write "default" first then flr or we will need to
> > reprobe reset methods each time when user writes to reset_method attribute.
>
> Not sure I completely understand the problem here.  I think relying on
> previous state that is invisible to the user is a little problematic
> because it's hard for the user to predict what will happen.
>
> If the user enables a method that was previously "disabled" because
> the probe failed, won't the reset method itself just fail with
> -ENOTTY?  Is that a problem?
>
I think I didn't explain this correctly. With current implementation
its not necessary to explicitly set *order of availabe* reset methods.
User can directly write a single supported reset method only and then perform
the reset. Side effect of that is other methods are disabled if user
writes single or less than available number of supported reset method.
Current implementation is able to handle this case but with new encoding
we'll need to reprobe reset methods everytime because we have no way
of distingushing supported and currently enabled reset method.

Alternate way of doing this is using 2 bitmaps as outlined here by
Shanker https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=162428773101702&w=2
> > > > +	while ((name = strsep(&options, ",")) != NULL) {
> > > > +		if (sysfs_streq(name, ""))
> > > > +			continue;
> > > > +
> > > > +		name = strim(name);
> > > > +
> > > > +		for (i = 0; i < PCI_RESET_METHODS_NUM; i++) {
> > > > +			if (reset_methods[i] &&
> > > > +			    sysfs_streq(name, pci_reset_fn_methods[i].name)) {
> > > > +				reset_methods[i] = prio--;
> > > > +				break;
> > > > +			}
> > > > +		}
> > > > +
> > > > +		if (i == PCI_RESET_METHODS_NUM) {
> > > > +			kfree(options);
> > > > +			return -EINVAL;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +	}
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (reset_methods[0] &&
> > > > +	    reset_methods[0] != PCI_RESET_METHODS_NUM)
> > > > +		pci_warn(pdev, "Device specific reset disabled/de-prioritized by user");
> > >
> > > Is there a specific reason for this warning?  Is it just telling the
> > > user that he might have shot himself in the foot?  Not sure that's
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > I think generally presence of device specific reset method means other
> > methods are potentially broken. Is it okay to skip this?
>
> We might want a warning at reset-time if all the methods failed,
> because that means we may leak state between users.  Maybe we also
> want one here, if *all* reset methods are disabled.  I don't really
> like special treatment of device-specific methods here because it
> depends on the assumption that "device-specific means all other resets
> are broken."  That's hard to maintain.
>
> Bjorn
Makes sense. I'll update this.

Thanks,
Amey

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-21 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-08  5:48 [PATCH v7 0/8] Expose and manage PCI device reset Amey Narkhede
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] PCI: Add pcie_reset_flr to follow calling convention of other reset methods Amey Narkhede
2021-06-10 20:15   ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-17 21:57   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-17 22:51     ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-18 16:32     ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-24 12:23   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-24 15:28     ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-24 16:15       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-24 18:48         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] PCI: Add new array for keeping track of ordering of " Amey Narkhede
2021-06-10 20:15   ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-17 23:13   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-18 17:22     ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-21 15:02       ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-21 17:15         ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-21 18:37           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] PCI: Remove reset_fn field from pci_dev Amey Narkhede
2021-06-10 20:16   ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] PCI/sysfs: Allow userspace to query and set device reset mechanism Amey Narkhede
2021-06-09 21:57   ` Raphael Norwitz
2021-06-09 22:36     ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-09 22:48       ` Raphael Norwitz
2021-06-10 20:16   ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-18 20:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-19 13:59     ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-21 13:01       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-21 17:28         ` Amey Narkhede [this message]
2021-06-21 19:07           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-21 19:33             ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-23 12:06               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-23 14:07                 ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-23 17:56                   ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-23 17:21         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-24 12:15   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-24 15:12     ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-24 16:56       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-24 17:20         ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-24 17:28         ` Amey Narkhede
2021-06-24 17:59           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] PCI: Setup ACPI_COMPANION early Amey Narkhede
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] PCI: Add support for ACPI _RST reset method Amey Narkhede
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] PCI: Enable NO_BUS_RESET quirk for Nvidia GPUs Amey Narkhede
2021-06-10 23:16   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-10 23:33     ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-10 23:43     ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-10 23:53       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-06-11  4:15         ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-08  5:48 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] PCI: Change the type of probe argument in reset functions Amey Narkhede
2021-06-09 21:40   ` Raphael Norwitz
2021-06-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] Expose and manage PCI device reset Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-08 15:44   ` Amey Narkhede

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