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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
Cc: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, sunpeng.li@amd.com,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, airlied@linux.ie,
	tzimmermann@suse.de, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color range" drm property as feedback for userspace
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:14:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210623141423.3f6c3e9f@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5947f768-dd87-6b39-ecfc-b7c4aaa88aca@tuxedocomputers.com>

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 12:17:40 +0200
Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:

> Am 23.06.21 um 09:32 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:48:52 +0000
> > Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> >  
> >> On Tuesday, June 22nd, 2021 at 11:50, Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Unknown is when no monitor is connected or is when the
> >>> connector/monitor is disabled.    
> >> I think the other connector props (link-status, non-desktop, etc) don't
> >> have a special "unset" value, and instead the value is set to a random
> >> enum entry. User-space should ignore the prop on these disconnected
> >> connectors anyways.  
> > That sounds fine to me.  
> 
> Currently the only case for "not applicable" is when the monitor is
> disconnected, but sicne the properties are so interdependent, there
> might be a case in the future where e.g. a color format that has no
> differentiation between full and limited arises. When there is no
> special unset/not applicable option, the userspace has to know
> exactly when an option is valid or not, possible requiring additional
> logic.
> 
> Setting a "not applicable" value allows userspace to be more dumb,
> without much hassle on the kernelspace side.

That's a good point too. So "not applicable" would be a value, but
"unknown" would not be.


Thanks,
pq

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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
Cc: sunpeng.li@amd.com, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	airlied@linux.ie, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	tzimmermann@suse.de, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color range" drm property as feedback for userspace
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:14:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210623141423.3f6c3e9f@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5947f768-dd87-6b39-ecfc-b7c4aaa88aca@tuxedocomputers.com>

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 12:17:40 +0200
Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:

> Am 23.06.21 um 09:32 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:48:52 +0000
> > Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> >  
> >> On Tuesday, June 22nd, 2021 at 11:50, Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Unknown is when no monitor is connected or is when the
> >>> connector/monitor is disabled.    
> >> I think the other connector props (link-status, non-desktop, etc) don't
> >> have a special "unset" value, and instead the value is set to a random
> >> enum entry. User-space should ignore the prop on these disconnected
> >> connectors anyways.  
> > That sounds fine to me.  
> 
> Currently the only case for "not applicable" is when the monitor is
> disconnected, but sicne the properties are so interdependent, there
> might be a case in the future where e.g. a color format that has no
> differentiation between full and limited arises. When there is no
> special unset/not applicable option, the userspace has to know
> exactly when an option is valid or not, possible requiring additional
> logic.
> 
> Setting a "not applicable" value allows userspace to be more dumb,
> without much hassle on the kernelspace side.

That's a good point too. So "not applicable" would be a value, but
"unknown" would not be.


Thanks,
pq

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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
Cc: sunpeng.li@amd.com, Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, airlied@linux.ie,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, tzimmermann@suse.de,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v4 09/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color range" drm property as feedback for userspace
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:14:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210623141423.3f6c3e9f@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5947f768-dd87-6b39-ecfc-b7c4aaa88aca@tuxedocomputers.com>


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On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 12:17:40 +0200
Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:

> Am 23.06.21 um 09:32 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:48:52 +0000
> > Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> >  
> >> On Tuesday, June 22nd, 2021 at 11:50, Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Unknown is when no monitor is connected or is when the
> >>> connector/monitor is disabled.    
> >> I think the other connector props (link-status, non-desktop, etc) don't
> >> have a special "unset" value, and instead the value is set to a random
> >> enum entry. User-space should ignore the prop on these disconnected
> >> connectors anyways.  
> > That sounds fine to me.  
> 
> Currently the only case for "not applicable" is when the monitor is
> disconnected, but sicne the properties are so interdependent, there
> might be a case in the future where e.g. a color format that has no
> differentiation between full and limited arises. When there is no
> special unset/not applicable option, the userspace has to know
> exactly when an option is valid or not, possible requiring additional
> logic.
> 
> Setting a "not applicable" value allows userspace to be more dumb,
> without much hassle on the kernelspace side.

That's a good point too. So "not applicable" would be a value, but
"unknown" would not be.


Thanks,
pq

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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
Cc: sunpeng.li@amd.com, Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, airlied@linux.ie,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, tzimmermann@suse.de,
	rodrigo.vivi@intel.com, alexander.deucher@amd.com,
	christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color range" drm property as feedback for userspace
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:14:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210623141423.3f6c3e9f@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5947f768-dd87-6b39-ecfc-b7c4aaa88aca@tuxedocomputers.com>


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On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 12:17:40 +0200
Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:

> Am 23.06.21 um 09:32 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:48:52 +0000
> > Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> >  
> >> On Tuesday, June 22nd, 2021 at 11:50, Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Unknown is when no monitor is connected or is when the
> >>> connector/monitor is disabled.    
> >> I think the other connector props (link-status, non-desktop, etc) don't
> >> have a special "unset" value, and instead the value is set to a random
> >> enum entry. User-space should ignore the prop on these disconnected
> >> connectors anyways.  
> > That sounds fine to me.  
> 
> Currently the only case for "not applicable" is when the monitor is
> disconnected, but sicne the properties are so interdependent, there
> might be a case in the future where e.g. a color format that has no
> differentiation between full and limited arises. When there is no
> special unset/not applicable option, the userspace has to know
> exactly when an option is valid or not, possible requiring additional
> logic.
> 
> Setting a "not applicable" value allows userspace to be more dumb,
> without much hassle on the kernelspace side.

That's a good point too. So "not applicable" would be a value, but
"unknown" would not be.


Thanks,
pq

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-23 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 215+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-18  9:10 [PATCH v4 00/17] New uAPI drm properties for color management Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:10 ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:10 ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] drm/amd/display: Remove unnecessary SIGNAL_TYPE_HDMI_TYPE_A check Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] drm/amd/display: Add missing cases convert_dc_color_depth_into_bpc Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active bpc" as feedback channel for "max bpc" drm property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  6:46   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:46     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:46     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:46     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-28 17:03   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-28 17:03     ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-28 17:03     ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:02     ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:02       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:02       ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  8:21       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:21         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:21         ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:21         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  9:42         ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:42           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:42           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:42           ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01  7:42           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  7:42             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  7:42             ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  7:42             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01 11:30             ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 11:30               ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 11:30               ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 11:30               ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 18:18               ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 18:18                 ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 18:18                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 18:18                 ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-15  9:10                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-15  9:10                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-15  9:10                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-15  9:10                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] drm/amd/display: Add handling for new "active bpc" property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] drm/i915/display: " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color format" drm property as feedback for userspace Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  6:48   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:48     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:48     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  6:48     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] drm/amd/display: Add handling for new "active color format" property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] drm/i915/display: " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] drm/uAPI: Add "active color range" drm property as feedback for userspace Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  7:00   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:00     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:00     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:00     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  9:50     ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:50       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:50       ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:50       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22 11:48       ` Simon Ser
2021-06-22 11:48         ` Simon Ser
2021-06-22 11:48         ` [Intel-gfx] " Simon Ser
2021-06-22 11:48         ` Simon Ser
2021-06-23  7:32         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:32           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:32           ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:32           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 10:17           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:17             ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:17             ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:17             ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 11:14             ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2021-06-23 11:14               ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:14               ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:14               ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:19               ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 11:19                 ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 11:19                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 11:19                 ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] drm/amd/display: Add handling for new "active color range" property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] drm/i915/display: " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] drm/uAPI: Add "preferred color format" drm property as setting for userspace Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  7:15   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:15     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:15     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:15     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-29  8:12     ` Simon Ser
2021-06-29  8:12       ` Simon Ser
2021-06-29  8:12       ` [Intel-gfx] " Simon Ser
2021-06-29  8:12       ` Simon Ser
2021-06-29 11:17       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-29 11:17         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-29 11:17         ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-29 11:17         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-29 11:37         ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:37           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:37           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:39         ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:39           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:39           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-29 11:39           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  8:41           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:41             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:41             ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  8:41             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-30  9:20             ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:20               ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:20               ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-30  9:20               ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01  8:07               ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  8:07                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  8:07                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01  8:07                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01 12:50                 ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 12:50                   ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 12:50                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 12:50                   ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-01 13:24                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01 13:24                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01 13:24                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-01 13:24                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-05 15:49                     ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-05 15:49                       ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-05 15:49                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-07-05 15:49                       ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-06  7:09                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-06  7:09                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-06  7:09                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-06  7:09                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-07-14 17:59                         ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 17:59                           ` Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 17:59                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-07-14 17:59                           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] drm/amd/display: Add handling for new "preferred color format" property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] drm/i915/display: " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] drm/uAPI: Move "Broadcast RGB" property from driver specific to general context Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  7:25   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:25     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:25     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:25     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  9:57     ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:57       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:57       ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:57       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23  7:48       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:48         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:48         ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  7:48         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 10:10         ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:10           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:10           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 10:10           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23 11:26           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:26             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:26             ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23 11:26             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-25  8:48             ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-25  8:48               ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-25  8:48               ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-25  8:48               ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] drm/i915/display: Use the general "Broadcast RGB" implementation Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] drm/amd/display: Add handling for new "Broadcast RGB" property Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:11   ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  7:29   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:29     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:29     ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  7:29     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-22  9:28     ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:28       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:28       ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-22  9:28       ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23  8:01       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  8:01         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  8:01         ` [Intel-gfx] " Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  8:01         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-06-23  9:58         ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23  9:58           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-23  9:58           ` [Intel-gfx] " Werner Sembach
2021-06-23  9:58           ` Werner Sembach
2021-06-18  9:47 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for New uAPI drm properties for color management (rev2) Patchwork
2021-06-18  9:50 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-06-18 10:20 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2021-06-18 12:12 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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