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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <guro@fb.com>, "Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/9] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:03:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210729110331.GC301667@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe3d9fcb-c3af-9214-c69f-00ef36521c5c@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:56:25AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 7/27/21 7:42 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:18:31AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=TBD
> > > 
> > > commit 994fb794cb252edd124a46ca0994e37a4726a100
> > > Author: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> > > Date:   Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:28:19 -0400
> > > 
> > >      cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type
> > > 
> > >      Cpuset v1 uses the sched_load_balance control file to determine if load
> > >      balancing should be enabled.  Cpuset v2 gets rid of sched_load_balance
> > >      as its use may require disabling load balancing at cgroup root.
> > > 
> > >      For workloads that require very low latency like DPDK, the latency
> > >      jitters caused by periodic load balancing may exceed the desired
> > >      latency limit.
> > > 
> > >      When cpuset v2 is in use, the only way to avoid this latency cost is to
> > >      use the "isolcpus=" kernel boot option to isolate a set of CPUs. After
> > >      the kernel boot, however, there is no way to add or remove CPUs from
> > >      this isolated set. For workloads that are more dynamic in nature, that
> > >      means users have to provision enough CPUs for the worst case situation
> > >      resulting in excess idle CPUs.
> > > 
> > >      To address this issue for cpuset v2, a new cpuset.cpus.partition type
> > >      "isolated" is added which allows the creation of a cpuset partition
> > >      without load balancing. This will allow system administrators to
> > >      dynamically adjust the size of isolated partition to the current need
> > >      of the workload without rebooting the system.
> > > 
> > >      Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> > Nice! And while we are adding a new ABI, can we take advantage of that and
> > add a specific semantic that if a new isolated partition matches a subset of
> > "isolcpus=", it automatically maps to it. This means that any further
> > modification to that isolated partition will also modify the associated
> > isolcpus= subset.
> > 
> > Or to summarize, when we create a new isolated partition, remove the associated
> > CPUs from isolcpus= ?
> 
> We can certainly do that as a follow-on.

I'm just concerned that this feature gets merged before we add that new
isolcpus= implicit mapping, which technically is a new ABI. Well I guess I
should hurry up and try to propose a patchset quickly once I'm back from
vacation :-)



> Another idea that I have been
> thinking about is to automatically generating a isolated partition under
> root to match the given isolcpus parameter when the v2 filesystem is
> mounted. That needs more experimentation and testing to verify that it can
> work.

I thought about that too, mounting an "isolcpus" subdirectory withing the top
cpuset but I was worried it could break userspace that wouldn't expect that new
thing to show up.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-29 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-20 14:18 [PATCH v3 0/9] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] cgroup/cpuset: Miscellaneous code cleanup Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-26 22:56   ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-26 22:56     ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] cgroup/cpuset: Fix a partition bug with hotplug Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-26 22:59   ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-26 22:59     ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-27 20:16     ` Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] cgroup/cpuset: Fix violation of cpuset locking rule Waiman Long
2021-07-26 23:10   ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] cgroup/cpuset: Enable event notification when partition become invalid Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-26 23:14   ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-27 20:26     ` Waiman Long
2021-07-27 20:26       ` Waiman Long
2021-07-27 20:46       ` Waiman Long
2021-07-27 20:46         ` Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] cgroup/cpuset: Clarify the use of invalid partition root Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-27 11:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-07-27 15:56     ` Waiman Long
2021-07-27 15:56       ` Waiman Long
2021-07-29 11:03       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2021-07-28 16:09   ` Michal Koutný
2021-07-28 16:27     ` Waiman Long
2021-07-28 17:25       ` Michal Koutný
2021-07-28 17:25         ` Michal Koutný
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] cgroup/cpuset: Allow non-top parent partition root to distribute out all CPUs Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
2021-07-20 14:18   ` Waiman Long
2021-07-26 23:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Tejun Heo
2021-07-26 23:17   ` Tejun Heo
2021-07-27 21:14   ` Waiman Long
2021-08-09 22:46     ` Tejun Heo
2021-08-10  1:12       ` Waiman Long
2021-08-10  1:12         ` Waiman Long

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