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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	amir73il@gmail.com, jack@suse.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	khazhy@google.com, dhowells@redhat.com, david@fromorbit.com,
	tytso@mit.edu, repnop@google.com, kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/21] fanotify: Emit generic error info type for error event
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:05:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210817090538.GA26181@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210816214103.GA12664@magnolia>

On Mon 16-08-21 14:41:03, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 05:40:07PM -0400, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
> > The Error info type is a record sent to users on FAN_FS_ERROR events
> > documenting the type of error.  It also carries an error count,
> > documenting how many errors were observed since the last reporting.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
> > 
> > ---
> > Changes since v5:
> >   - Move error code here
> > ---
> >  fs/notify/fanotify/fanotify.c      |  1 +
> >  fs/notify/fanotify/fanotify.h      |  1 +
> >  fs/notify/fanotify/fanotify_user.c | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/uapi/linux/fanotify.h      |  7 ++++++
> >  4 files changed, 45 insertions(+)
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fanotify.h b/include/uapi/linux/fanotify.h
> > index 16402037fc7a..80040a92e9d9 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/fanotify.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/fanotify.h
> > @@ -124,6 +124,7 @@ struct fanotify_event_metadata {
> >  #define FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_FID		1
> >  #define FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_DFID_NAME	2
> >  #define FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_DFID	3
> > +#define FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_ERROR	4
> >  
> >  /* Variable length info record following event metadata */
> >  struct fanotify_event_info_header {
> > @@ -149,6 +150,12 @@ struct fanotify_event_info_fid {
> >  	unsigned char handle[0];
> >  };
> >  
> > +struct fanotify_event_info_error {
> > +	struct fanotify_event_info_header hdr;
> > +	__s32 error;
> > +	__u32 error_count;
> > +};
> 
> My apologies for not having time to review this patchset since it was
> redesigned to use fanotify.  Someday it would be helpful to be able to
> export more detailed error reports from XFS, but as I'm not ready to
> move forward and write that today, I'll try to avoid derailling this at
> the last minute.

I think we are not quite there and tweaking the passed structure is easy
enough so no worries. Eventually, passing some filesystem-specific blob
together with the event was the plan AFAIR. You're right now is a good
moment to think how exactly we want that passed.

> Eventually, XFS might want to be able to report errors in file data,
> file metadata, allocation group metadata, and whole-filesystem metadata.
> Userspace can already gather reports from XFS about corruptions reported
> by the online fsck code (see xfs_health.c).

Yes, although note that the current plan is that we currently have only one
error event queue, others are just added to error_count until the event is
fetched by userspace (on the grounds that the first error is usually the
most meaningful, the others are usually just cascading problems). But I'm
not sure if this scheme would be suitable for online fsck usecase since we
may discard even valid independent errors this way.

> I /think/ we could subclass the file error structure that you've
> provided like so:
> 
> struct fanotify_event_info_xfs_filesystem_error {
> 	struct fanotify_event_info_error	base;
> 
> 	__u32 magic; /* 0x58465342 to identify xfs */
> 	__u32 type; /* quotas, realtime bitmap, etc. */
> };
> 
> struct fanotify_event_info_xfs_perag_error {
> 	struct fanotify_event_info_error	base;
> 
> 	__u32 magic; /* 0x58465342 to identify xfs */
> 	__u32 type; /* agf, agi, agfl, bno btree, ino btree, etc. */
> 	__u32 agno; /* allocation group number */
> };
> 
> struct fanotify_event_info_xfs_file_error {
> 	struct fanotify_event_info_error	base;
> 
> 	__u32 magic; /* 0x58465342 to identify xfs */
> 	__u32 type; /* extent map, dir, attr, etc. */
> 	__u64 offset; /* file data offset, if applicable */
> 	__u64 length; /* file data length, if applicable */
> };
> 
> (A real XFS implementation might have one structure with the type code
> providing for a tagged union or something; I split it into three
> separate structs here to avoid confusing things.)

The structure of fanotify event as passed to userspace generally is:

struct fanotify_event_metadata {
        __u32 event_len;
        __u8 vers;
        __u8 reserved;
        __u16 metadata_len;
        __aligned_u64 mask;
        __s32 fd;
        __s32 pid;
};

If event_len is > sizeof(struct fanotify_event_metadata), userspace is
expected to look for struct fanotify_event_info_header after struct
fanotify_event_metadata. struct fanotify_event_info_header looks like:

struct fanotify_event_info_header {
        __u8 info_type;
        __u8 pad;
        __u16 len;
};

Again if the end of this info (defined by 'len') is smaller than
'event_len', there is next header with next payload of data. So for example
error event will have:

struct fanotify_event_metadata
struct fanotify_event_info_error
struct fanotify_event_info_fid

Now either we could add fs specific blob into fanotify_event_info_error
(but then it would be good to add 'magic' to fanotify_event_info_error now
and define that if 'len' is larger, fs-specific blob follows after fixed
data) or we can add another info type FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_ERROR_FS_DATA
(i.e., attach another structure into the event) which would contain the
'magic' and then blob of data. I don't have strong preference.

> I have three questions at this point:
> 
> 1) What's the maximum size of a fanotify event structure?  None of these
> structures exceed 36 bytes, which I hope will fit in whatever size
> constraints?

Whole event must fit into 4G, each event info needs to fit in 64k. At least
these are the limits of the interface. Practically, it would be difficult
and inefficient to manipulate such huge events... 

> 2) If a program written for today's notification events sees a
> fanotify_event_info_header from future-XFS with a header length that is
> larger than FANOTIFY_INFO_ERROR_LEN, will it be able to react
> appropriately?  Which is to say, ignore it on the grounds that the
> length is unexpectedly large?

That is the expected behavior :). But I guess separate info type for
fs-specific blob might be more foolproof in this sense - when parsing
events, you are expected to just skip info_types you don't understand
(based on 'len' and 'type' in the common header) and generally different
events have different sets of infos attached to them so you mostly have to
implement this logic to be able to process events.

> It /looks/ like this is the case; really I'm just fishing around here
> to make sure nothing in the design of /this/ patchset would make it Very
> Difficult(tm) to add more information later.
> 
> 3) Once we let filesystem implementations create their own extended
> error notifications, should we have a "u32 magic" to aid in decoding?
> Or even add it to fanotify_event_info_error now?

If we go via the 'separate info type' route, then the magic can go into
that structure and there's no great use for 'magic' in
fanotify_event_info_error.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-17  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 21:39 [PATCH v6 00/21] File system wide monitoring Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] fsnotify: Don't insert unmergeable events in hashtable Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] fsnotify: Reserve mark flag bits for backends Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 13:15     ` Jan Kara
2021-08-23 14:36       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] fanotify: Split superblock marks out to a new cache Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 13:18   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] inotify: Don't force FS_IN_IGNORED Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] fsnotify: Add helper to detect overflow_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] fsnotify: Add wrapper around fsnotify_add_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] fsnotify: Allow events reported with an empty inode Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:58   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-25 18:40     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-25 19:45       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-25 21:50         ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-26 10:44           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-27  2:26             ` Paul Moore
2021-08-27  9:36               ` audit watch and kernfs Amir Goldstein
2021-08-27 10:22                 ` Al Viro
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:48   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 13:23   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] fanotify: Allow file handle encoding for unhashed events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:59   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] fanotify: Encode invalid file handle when no inode is provided Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:27   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 14:06     ` Jan Kara
2021-08-16 15:54       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:11         ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] fanotify: Require fid_mode for any non-fd event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] fanotify: Reserve UAPI bits for FAN_FS_ERROR Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:29   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] fanotify: Preallocate per superblock mark error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 15:57   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-27 18:18     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-09-02 21:24       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-09-03  4:16         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-15 10:31           ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] fanotify: Handle FAN_FS_ERROR events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  9:35   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] fanotify: Report fid info for file related file system errors Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  9:00   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-13  9:03     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:18   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] fanotify: Emit generic error info type for error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:47   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:23   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-16 21:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-17  9:05     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2021-08-17 10:08       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-18  0:16         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-18  3:24           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-18  9:58             ` Jan Kara
2021-08-19  3:58               ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-18  0:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-24 16:53       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-25  4:09         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 16:26   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-18 13:02   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-23 14:49     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] docs: Document the FAN_FS_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 16:40   ` Jan Kara

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