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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: "D, Lakshmi Sowjanya" <lakshmi.sowjanya.d@intel.com>,
	"thierry.reding@gmail.com" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	"open list:PWM SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Saha, Tamal" <tamal.saha@intel.com>,
	bala.senthil@intel.com, Dipen Patel <dipenp@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 07/20] gpio: Add output event generation method to GPIOLIB and PMC Driver
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:27:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210917072755.d4ynxkp4scxrk6rq@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYJkPgaz-BvQ1X0PHRCCbn0hrMDabouDwHkn+pr9d-dSQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Hello,

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 11:42:04PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> Hi Lakshmi,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 6:48 PM <lakshmi.sowjanya.d@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Lakshmi Sowjanya D <lakshmi.sowjanya.d@intel.com>
> >
> > Intel Timed I/O hardware supports output scheduled in hardware. Enable
> > this functionality using GPIOlib
> >
> > Adds GPIOlib generate_output() hook into the driver. The driver is
> > supplied with a timestamp in terms of realtime system clock (the same
> > used for input timestamping). The driver must know how to translate this
> > into a timebase meaningful for the hardware.
> >
> > Adds userspace write() interface. Output can be selected using the line
> > event create ioctl. The write() interface takes a single timestamp
> > event request parameter. An output edge rising or falling is generated
> > for each event request.
> >
> > The user application supplies a trigger time in terms of the realtime
> > clock the driver converts this into the corresponding ART clock value
> > that is used to 'arm' the output.
> >
> > Work around device quirk that doesn't allow the output to be explicitly
> > set. Instead, count the output edges and insert an additional edge as
> > needed to reset the output to zero.
> >
> > Co-developed-by: Christopher Hall <christopher.s.hall@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Christopher Hall <christopher.s.hall@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Tamal Saha <tamal.saha@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Lakshmi Sowjanya D <lakshmi.sowjanya.d@intel.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Mark Gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>
> 
> So this is some street organ machine that generates sequences
> with determined timing between positive and negative edges
> right?
> 
> I can't see how this hardware is different from a PWM, or well
> I do to some extent, you can control the period of several
> subsequent waves, but that is really just an elaborate version
> of PWM in my book.

From looking in the patch I think this is more versatile than the PWM
framework abstracts. I wonder if there is a usecase for the
functionality that cannot be expressed using pwm_apply_state?!

I remember we had approaches before that implemented repeating patterns
(something like: active for 5ms, inactive for 10 ms, active for 30 ms,
inactive for 10 ms, repeat) and limiting the number of periods
(something like: .duty_cycle = 5ms, .period = 20ms, after 5 periods go
into inactive state). These were considered to be too special to be
abstracted in drivers/pwm.

> It seems to me that this part of the functionality belongs in the
> PWM subsystem which already has interfaces for similar
> things, and you should probably extend PWM to handle
> random waveforms rather than trying to shoehorn this
> into the GPIO subsystem.

I agree that GPIO is a worse candidate than PWM to abstract that. But
I'm not convinced (yet?) that it's a good idea to extend PWM
accordingly.

Best regards
Uwe

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Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-17  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-24 16:47 [RFC PATCH v1 00/20] Review Request: Add support for Intel PMC lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/20] gpio: Add basic GPIO driver for Intel PMC Timed I/O device lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/20] gpio: Add GPIO polling interface to GPIO lib lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-22 10:03   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2021-10-07  2:14     ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/20] arch: x86: Add ART support function to tsc code lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/20] gpio: Add input code to Intel PMC Timed I/O Driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/20] tools: gpio: Add additional polling support to gpio-event-mon lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/20] gpio: Add set_input and polling interface to GPIO lib code lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/20] gpio: Add output event generation method to GPIOLIB and PMC Driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 21:42   ` Linus Walleij
2021-09-17  7:27     ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2021-09-19 19:38       ` Linus Walleij
2021-09-19 21:21         ` Clemens Gruber
2021-09-20  7:14           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/20] kernel: time: Add system time to system counter translation lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 21:48   ` Linus Walleij
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/20] arch: x86: Add TSC to ART translation lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/20] tools: gpio: Add GPIO output generation user application lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 21:52   ` Linus Walleij
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/20] gpio: Add event count interface to gpiolib lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-22  9:53   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/20] gpio: Add event count to Intel(R) PMC Timed I/O driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/20] tools: gpio: Add event count capability to event monitor application lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 21:57   ` Linus Walleij
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/20] arch/x86: Add ART nanosecond to ART conversion lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/20] pwm: Add capability for PWM Driver managed state lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 22:00   ` Linus Walleij
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/20] gpio: Add PWM capabilities to Intel(R) PMC TIO driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/20] pwm: Add second alignment to the core PWM interface lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/20] gpio: Add PWM alignment support to the Intel(R) PMC Timed I/O driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/20] gpio: Add GPIO monitor line to Intel(R) Timed I/O Driver lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-08-24 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/20] tools: gpio: Add PWM monitor application lakshmi.sowjanya.d
2021-09-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/20] Review Request: Add support for Intel PMC Linus Walleij
2021-10-11 21:14   ` Dipen Patel

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