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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim until some writeback completes if congested
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:58:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210921105831.GO3959@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <163218319798.3992.1165186037496786892@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:13:17AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > -long wait_iff_congested(int sync, long timeout)
> > -{
> > -	long ret;
> > -	unsigned long start = jiffies;
> > -	DEFINE_WAIT(wait);
> > -	wait_queue_head_t *wqh = &congestion_wqh[sync];
> > -
> > -	/*
> > -	 * If there is no congestion, yield if necessary instead
> > -	 * of sleeping on the congestion queue
> > -	 */
> > -	if (atomic_read(&nr_wb_congested[sync]) == 0) {
> > -		cond_resched();
> > -
> > -		/* In case we scheduled, work out time remaining */
> > -		ret = timeout - (jiffies - start);
> > -		if (ret < 0)
> > -			ret = 0;
> > -
> > -		goto out;
> > -	}
> > -
> > -	/* Sleep until uncongested or a write happens */
> > -	prepare_to_wait(wqh, &wait, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> 
> Uninterruptible wait.
> 
> ....
> > +static void
> > +reclaim_throttle(pg_data_t *pgdat, enum vmscan_throttle_state reason,
> > +							long timeout)
> > +{
> > +	wait_queue_head_t *wqh = &pgdat->reclaim_wait;
> > +	unsigned long start = jiffies;
> > +	long ret;
> > +	DEFINE_WAIT(wait);
> > +
> > +	atomic_inc(&pgdat->nr_reclaim_throttled);
> > +	WRITE_ONCE(pgdat->nr_reclaim_start,
> > +		 node_page_state(pgdat, NR_THROTTLED_WRITTEN));
> > +
> > +	prepare_to_wait(wqh, &wait, TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> 
> Interruptible wait.
> 
> Why the change?  I think these waits really need to be TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE.
> 

Because from mm/ context, I saw no reason why the task *should* be
uninterruptible. It's waiting on other tasks to complete IO and it is not
protecting device state, filesystem state or anything else. If it gets
a signal, it's safe to wake up, particularly if that signal is KILL and
the context is a direct reclaimer.

The original TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE is almost certainly a copy&paste from
congestion_wait which may be called because a filesystem operation must
complete before it can return to userspace so a signal waking it up is
pointless.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-20  8:54 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Remove dependency on congestion_wait in mm/ Mel Gorman
2021-09-20  8:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim until some writeback completes if congested Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 23:19   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-21 11:12     ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-21 21:27       ` NeilBrown
2021-09-21  0:13   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-21 10:58     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2021-09-21 21:40       ` NeilBrown
2021-09-22  6:04       ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-22  8:03         ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-22 12:16   ` Hillf Danton
2021-09-22 14:13     ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-20  8:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim and compaction when too may pages are isolated Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 23:27   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-21 11:03     ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-21 18:45   ` Yang Shi
2021-09-21 18:45     ` Yang Shi
2021-09-22  8:11     ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-20  8:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim when no progress is being made Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 23:31   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-21 11:16     ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-21 21:46       ` NeilBrown
2021-09-22  9:21         ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-20  8:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm/writeback: Throttle based on page writeback instead of congestion Mel Gorman
2021-09-20  8:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm/page_alloc: Remove the throttling logic from the page allocator Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 11:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Remove dependency on congestion_wait in mm/ Matthew Wilcox
2021-09-20 12:50   ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 14:11     ` David Sterba
2021-09-21 11:18       ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-20 19:51   ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-21 20:46 ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-22 17:52   ` Mel Gorman
2021-09-29 10:09 [PATCH 0/5] Remove dependency on congestion_wait in mm/ v2 Mel Gorman
2021-09-29 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm/vmscan: Throttle reclaim until some writeback completes if congested Mel Gorman

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