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From: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
	Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 08/16] vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 22:06:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220107030642.re2d7gkfndbtzb6v@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220107001945.GN2328285@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 08:19:45PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 02:05:27PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > Yeah, good question.  I tried doing it that way recently and it did
> > > > improve performance a bit, but I thought it wasn't enough of a gain to
> > > > justify how it overaccounted by the size of the entire pin.  
> > > 
> > > Why would it over account?
> > 
> > We'd be guessing that the entire virtual address mapping counts against
> > locked memory limits, but it might include PFNMAP pages or pages that
> > are already account via the page pinning interface that mdev devices
> > use.  At that point we're risking that the user isn't concurrently
> > doing something else that could fail as a result of pre-accounting and
> > fixup later schemes like this.  Thanks,

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.

> At least in iommufd I'm planning to keep the P2P ranges seperated from
> the normal page ranges. For user space compat we'd have to scan over
> the VA range looking for special VMAs. I expect in most cases there
> are few VMAs..
> 
> Computing the # pages pinned by mdevs requires a interval tree scan,
> in Daniel's target scenario the intervals will be empty so this costs
> nothing.
> 
> At least it seems like it is not an insurmountable problem if it makes
> an appreciable difference..

Ok, I can think more about this.

> After seeing Daniels's patches I've been wondering if the pin step in
> iommufd's draft could be parallized on a per-map basis without too
> much trouble. It might give Daniel a way to do a quick approach
> comparison..

Sorry, comparison between what?  I can take a look at iommufd tomorrow
though and see if your comment makes more sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-07  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-06  0:46 [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 01/16] padata: Remove __init from multithreading functions Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 02/16] padata: Return first error from a job Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 03/16] padata: Add undo support Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 04/16] padata: Detect deadlocks between main and helper threads Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 05/16] vfio/type1: Pass mm to vfio_pin_pages_remote() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 06/16] vfio/type1: Refactor dma map removal Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 07/16] vfio/type1: Parallelize vfio_pin_map_dma() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 08/16] vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  1:17     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 12:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 21:05         ` Alex Williamson
2022-01-07  0:19           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  3:06             ` Daniel Jordan [this message]
2022-01-07 15:18               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 16:39                 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 09/16] padata: Use kthreads in do_multithreaded Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 10/16] padata: Helpers should respect main thread's CPU affinity Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 11/16] padata: Cap helpers started to online CPUs Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 12/16] sched, padata: Bound max threads with max_cfs_bandwidth_cpus() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  6:06   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-06 11:31   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 13/16] padata: Run helper threads at MAX_NICE Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 14/16] padata: Nice helper threads one by one to prevent starvation Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 15/16] sched/fair: Account kthread runtime debt for CFS bandwidth Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  6:47   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-06  6:47   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-06  6:47     ` kernel test robot
2022-01-11 11:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-11 16:29     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-12 20:18       ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-13 21:08         ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-13 21:11           ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14  9:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14  9:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:40       ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14 16:30     ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:32     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 16/16] sched/fair: Consider kthread debt in cputime Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  3:03   ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-07 17:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-10 22:27       ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-11  0:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-11 16:20           ` Daniel Jordan

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