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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: joao@overdrivepizza.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	jpoimboe@redhat.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, samitolvanen@google.com,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, hjl.tools@gmail.com,
	alyssa.milburn@linux.intel.com, ndesaulniers@google.com,
	gabriel.gomes@linux.intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:40:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220420074044.GC2731@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220420004241.2093-1-joao@overdrivepizza.com>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 05:42:30PM -0700, joao@overdrivepizza.com wrote:
> @PeterZ @JoshP
> 
> I'm a bit unaware of the details on why the objtool approach to bypass ENDBRs
> was removed from the IBT series. Is this approach now sensible considering that
> it is a requirement for a new/enhanced feature? If not, how extending the Linker
> to emit already fixed offsets sounds like?

Josh hates objtool modifying actualy code. He much prefers objtool only
emits out of band data.

Now, I did sneak in that jump_label nop'ing, and necessity (broken
compilers) had us do the KCOV nop'ing in noinstr, but if you look at the
recent objtool series here:

  https://lkml.kernel.org/r/cover.1650300597.git.jpoimboe@redhat.com

you'll see his thoughs on that :-)

Now, I obviously don't mind, it's easy enough to figure out what objtool
actually does with something like:

  $ OBJTOOL_ARGS="--backup" make O=ibt-build/ -j$lots vmlinux
  $ objdiff.sh ibt-build/vmlinux.o

Where objdiff.sh is the below crummy script.

Now, one compromise that I did get out of Josh was that he objected less
to rewriting relocations than to rewriting the immediates. From my
testing the relocations got us the vast majority of direct call sites,
very few are immediates.

Josh, any way you might reconsider all that? :-)

---
#!/bin/bash

name=$1
pre=${name}.orig
post=${name}

function to_text {
	obj=$1
	( objdump -wdr $obj;
	  readelf -W --relocs --symbols $obj |
		  awk '/^Relocation section/ { $6=0 } { print $0 }'
	) > ${obj}.tmp
}

to_text $pre
to_text $post

diff -u ${pre}.tmp ${post}.tmp

rm ${pre}.tmp ${post}.tmp

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-20  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  0:42 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] x86: kernel FineIBT joao
2022-04-29  1:37   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-02 17:17     ` Joao Moreira
2022-05-03 22:02       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-04  2:19         ` Joao Moreira
2022-05-04 10:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-04 17:04           ` Peter Collingbourne
2022-05-04 18:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-05  0:28               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05  7:36                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-08  8:29               ` Kees Cook
2022-05-09 11:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] kbuild: Support FineIBT build joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] objtool: Support FineIBT offset fixes joao
2022-04-20  8:23   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] x86/module: Support FineIBT in modules joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] x86/text-patching: Support FineIBT text-patching joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] x86/bpf: Support FineIBT joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] x86/lib: Prevent UACCESS call warning from objtool joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] x86/ibt: Add CET_TEST module for IBT testing joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] x86/FineIBT: Add FINEIBT_TEST module joao
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] linux/interrupt: Fix prototype matching property joao
2022-04-20  2:45   ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 22:14     ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-20  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] driver/int3400_thermal: Fix prototype matching joao
2022-04-20  2:55   ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 22:28     ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-20 23:04       ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 23:12         ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-20 23:25           ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21  0:28             ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-20  2:42 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support Kees Cook
2022-04-20 22:50   ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-20  7:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-04-20 15:17   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-20 17:12     ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-04-20 22:40       ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-21  7:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-21 15:23           ` Joao Moreira
2022-04-21 15:35             ` H.J. Lu
2022-04-21 22:11               ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-21 22:26                 ` H.J. Lu
2022-04-20 23:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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