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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Delyan Kratunov <delyank@fb.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/tracing: append prev_state to tp args instead
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:09:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220422110903.GW2731@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93a20759600c05b6d9e4359a1517c88e06b44834.camel@fb.com>

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:12:25PM +0000, Delyan Kratunov wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> While working on bpf tooling, we noticed that the sched_switch tracepoint
> signature recently changed in an incompatible manner. This affects the
> runqslower tools in the kernel tree, as well as multiple libbpf tools in iovisor/bcc.
> 
> It would be a fair amount of churn to fix all these tools, not to mention any
> non-public tools people may be using.

So on the one hand, too bad, deal with it. None of this is ABI.

> If you are open to it, here's a
> description and a patch that moves the new argument to the end,
> so existing tools can continue working without change (the new argument
> just won't be extracted in existing programs):

And on the other hand; those users need to be fixed anyway, right?
Accessing prev->__state is equally broken.

Yes, the proposed hack is cute, but I have very little sympathy for any
of this. These are in-kernel interfaces, they change, there must not be
any impediment to change.

If bpf wants to ride on them, it needs to suffer the pain of doing so.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-20 16:25 [PATCH v3 0/2] sched/tracing: sched_switch prev_state reported as TASK_RUNNING when it's not Valentin Schneider
2022-01-20 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] sched/tracing: Don't re-read p->state when emitting sched_switch event Valentin Schneider
2022-03-01 15:24   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2022-03-04 16:13     ` Valentin Schneider
2022-03-08 18:02     ` Qais Yousef
2022-03-08 18:10       ` Greg KH
2022-03-08 18:51         ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-09 23:38           ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-10 22:06             ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-10 23:22               ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-04-11  7:18                 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-04-11  7:28                   ` Greg KH
2022-04-11  8:05                     ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-04-11 13:23                       ` Greg KH
2022-04-11 13:22             ` Greg KH
2022-04-11 21:06               ` Qais Yousef
2022-01-20 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] sched/tracing: Report TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT tasks as TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE Valentin Schneider
2022-03-01 15:24   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2022-04-09 23:42   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Qais Yousef
2022-04-10  6:14     ` Greg KH
2022-04-10 22:13       ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-11 13:20         ` Greg KH
2022-04-11 20:18           ` Qais Yousef
2022-01-21 17:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] sched/tracing: sched_switch prev_state reported as TASK_RUNNING when it's not Steven Rostedt
2022-02-27 15:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-21 22:12 ` [PATCH] sched/tracing: append prev_state to tp args instead Delyan Kratunov
2022-04-22 10:13   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-04-22 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-04-22 15:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-22 16:54       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-04-22 16:37     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-04-22 17:22     ` Delyan Kratunov
2022-04-22 18:30       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-04-26 12:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-26 14:09           ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-26 15:54             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-04-27 10:34               ` Qais Yousef
2022-04-27 18:17                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-04-27 20:32                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-04-28 10:02                   ` Qais Yousef
2022-05-09 19:32                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-05-10  7:01                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-10  8:29                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-10 14:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-11 18:28                           ` [PATCH v2] " Delyan Kratunov
2022-05-11 19:10                             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-11 22:45                             ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/tracing: Append " tip-bot2 for Delyan Kratunov
2022-05-11 23:40                             ` [PATCH v2] sched/tracing: append " Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-26 15:51           ` [PATCH] " Andrii Nakryiko

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