From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DD2C43334 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S242459AbiFTR0l (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:26:41 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53844 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232421AbiFTR0k (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:26:40 -0400 Received: from mail1.merlins.org (magic.merlins.org [209.81.13.136]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72BE01EC69 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.132.34.178] (port=59374 helo=sauron.svh.merlins.org) by mail1.merlins.org with esmtpsa (Cipher TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.94.2 #2) id 1o3KSD-0007zi-PQ by authid with srv_auth_plain; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:26:37 -0700 Received: from merlin by sauron.svh.merlins.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3LAa-0080YP-Ma; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:26:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:26:36 -0700 From: Marc MERLIN To: Andrei Borzenkov Cc: Ghislain Adnet , linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for building new 44TB Raid5 array Message-ID: <20220620172636.GC1878147@merlins.org> References: <20220611045120.GN22722@merlins.org> <5e1733e6-471e-e7cb-9588-3280e659bfc2@aqueos.com> <20220620150132.GM1664812@merlins.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Sysadmin: BOFH X-URL: http://marc.merlins.org/ X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name for IP address 76.132.34.178 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.132.34.178 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: marc@merlins.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 08:02:59PM +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > ZFS on Linux is not owned by Oracle to my best knowledge. > > https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/License.html Oracle bought Sun and its patent portfolio in the process, including all claims to any patents in ZFS. I simply will never trust them given what they've already done. I did give a full talk about this issue years ago. https://marc.merlins.org/linux/talks/Btrfs-LC2014-JP/Btrfs.pdf and go to page #5 and https://www.theregister.com/2010/09/09/oracle_netapp_zfs_dismiss/ basically there likely are Netapp patents in ZFS too, but I'm less worried about Netapp suing others for patents, and they did settle with Sun back in the days. Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08