From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF96AC00140 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232711AbiHJRgF (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:36:05 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41614 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232335AbiHJRgD (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:36:03 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3888261118 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C912861388 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 185B9C433D6; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1660152962; bh=s9cndrWyn+mnyHvQxMbSvQvSdKyqc57LuKFNEQHA2hA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=qOjQi5A5GW6d7WiAIEtZNdty0V98RJi+Sp8F8FNMOq79NLNNeGmDuTQu+rnXQq+sN V1ZxQbs5+787TfcvlcZrOuQy6p8NC9/EGSoz9G+sTYVNF6TEzrpliuKn9vu+AuZiQL 7HKGzcp27oI7ppw1LWH1oLwUGb7gu+Ewlb0Vmi/kHYTqwPFogJDqcX9WTj/mMVrNmh kTcurhzoGoR9jOkvuCB6t4r4filpDszyTtr5F4euDHKBumVokinUza901BAxlRsAA4 Ng72cNXUKkZ6yEc7KRe3uE82uvVI0SIuUPPm8OGdK+LV0ugZf6em8Fdn0nic/BjXHo qUeREF5S05h8g== Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:36:01 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Johannes Berg Cc: James Prestwood , netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] net: move IFF_LIVE_ADDR_CHANGE to public flag Message-ID: <20220810103601.0dccbc63@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <9ec77cf1ffaa29aedd57c29ac77b525d0e700acf.camel@sipsolutions.net> References: <20220804174307.448527-1-prestwoj@gmail.com> <20220804174307.448527-2-prestwoj@gmail.com> <20220804114342.71d2cff0@kernel.org> <0fc27b144ca3adb4ff6b3057f2654040392ef2d8.camel@sipsolutions.net> <9ec77cf1ffaa29aedd57c29ac77b525d0e700acf.camel@sipsolutions.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:17:19 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote: > Thinking about that now, maybe it's not _that_ bad? Especially given > that "live" can mean different things (as discussed here), and for > wireless that doesn't necessarily mean IFF_UP, but rather something like > "IFF_UP + not active". > > Jakub, what do you think? Agreed, even tho the concept of a live address change seems generic the implications and definition of "live" are very area specific. Let's handwave that nl80211 is a subordinate API of RT netlink :)