From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1oP6Ry-0002uT-PO for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:10:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oP6Rp-0002rO-7w for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:10:22 -0400 Received: from cheddar.halon.org.uk ([93.93.131.118]:53078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oP6Rl-0003oT-F6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:10:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=einval.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject: Content-ID:Content-Description:X-Debbugs-Cc; bh=rHfgkbPWLGMtooQTjj/PfVK9gc2zCHIens7+6oaqKmw=; b=j5nEbAUP9Ryn8Hc+CEhzyXi3Xh zEWar9iRSe8PRjHRjC5stjX7jWGt9oREGB9Io3CMTAUbtb5wNNGSaBsYigjGasW7hguqW6ytOQcHa thUjdO1OMuXWDYaws4jjZaKso1AYddjbDBPkDamLtslCjjYUr/qBRggcfdniq/v1NnWk5tOlnZNSl nYIl+jc+VLoHoO0hFA7IgWqMgKHbIL7DObxtylEn0Hs8JfvJP9HdZ0dDfp1StbKZev/lDSX+46caD oeYl4n2poqpZ5LkBkY2fGt8Sd76ZyFtEfhw+4RHlFR/jhLViq6TkVjWTyW+Px8KboxluXSZIOxIYw MmBNfXpA==; Received: from bsmtp by cheddar.halon.org.uk with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oP6Re-0006Oe-D4; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:10:10 +0100 Received: from steve by tack.einval.org with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1oP6Qu-00Ecud-0n; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:09:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:09:23 +0100 From: Steve McIntyre To: The development of GNU GRUB Cc: Daniel Axtens Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove HFS support Message-ID: <20220819180916.GG2668594@tack.einval.com> References: <20220819135755.vpfkmfyvysmdbzov@tomti.i.net-space.pl> <0F68F479-0EC8-4BF8-B21D-81B5FC725226@physik.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <0F68F479-0EC8-4BF8-B21D-81B5FC725226@physik.fu-berlin.de> X-attached: none User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=93.93.131.118; envelope-from=steve@einval.com; helo=cheddar.halon.org.uk X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:10:22 -0000 On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:03:38PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On Aug 19, 2022, at 3:59 PM, Daniel Kiper wrote: >> >> If I do not hear any major objections in the following weeks I will >> merge this patch or a variant of it in the second half of September. > >We’re still formatting our /boot partitions for Debian PowerPC for >PowerMacs using HFS, so this change would be a breaking change for >us. > >So, that would be a no from Debian’s side. Not so fast please, Adrian. At the risk of sounding harsh, non-release old ports like powerpc *really* don't get to dictate things in Debian terms. As Daniel Axtens has been finding out, the HFS code is terrible in terms of security. If you still need it for old/semi-dead machines, maybe you should fork an older grub release and stay with that? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer