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Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 16:33:57 +0200 From: Maxime Ripard To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Mateusz Kwiatkowski , Jernej Skrabec , Martin Blumenstingl , Chen-Yu Tsai , Philipp Zabel , Jerome Brunet , Samuel Holland , Thomas Zimmermann , Daniel Vetter , Emma Anholt , David Airlie , Maarten Lankhorst , Noralf =?utf-8?Q?Tr=C3=B8nnes?= , Kevin Hilman , Neil Armstrong , linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Phil Elwell , Linux ARM , Dave Stevenson , "open list:ARM/Amlogic Meson..." , DRI Development , Dom Cobley Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/35] drm/modes: Introduce 480i and 576i modes Message-ID: <20220829143357.rih7vmxnd434n5eo@houat> References: <20220818123934.eim2bfrgbxsmviqx@houat> <20220818134200.cr22bftmjn226ehn@houat> <20220818154641.ouvrar5s74qu74zn@houat> <6d1dfaad-7310-a596-34dd-4a6d9aa95f65@gmail.com> <20220829132953.sfv5yex2dhv76vrq@houat> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20220829_073408_183257_87730D27 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 19.32 ) X-BeenThere: linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1402166391834782981==" Sender: "linux-amlogic" Errors-To: linux-amlogic-bounces+linux-amlogic=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============1402166391834782981== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kfxaklqvqri4mo47" Content-Disposition: inline --kfxaklqvqri4mo47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Maxime, >=20 > On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 3:30 PM Maxime Ripard wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 06:42:18PM +0200, Mateusz Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > - Speaking of closed captioning... a lot of different stuff were put = in the > > > blanking interval over the years. Like teletext in Europe. There ar= e projects > > > like VBIT2 which intentionally > > > reconfigure the Raspberry Pi composite output to include the blanki= ng interval > > > in the framebuffer so that teletext can be output by drawing on the= edge of > > > the "screen" (from the computer point of view). > > > > I'm not sure how we would support this in KMS to be honest. Asking for a > > wider mode and the userspace putting whatever it wants in the margins > > seems like a good choice. >=20 > s/wider/higher/ >=20 > Teletext is transmitted in the "visible" parts of (horizontal) lines, but= during > the vertical blank. Yeah, sorry I meant wider as in larger than the active area, without any direction in mind. 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Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 16:33:57 +0200 From: Maxime Ripard To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Mateusz Kwiatkowski , Jernej Skrabec , Martin Blumenstingl , Chen-Yu Tsai , Philipp Zabel , Jerome Brunet , Samuel Holland , Thomas Zimmermann , Daniel Vetter , Emma Anholt , David Airlie , Maarten Lankhorst , Noralf =?utf-8?Q?Tr=C3=B8nnes?= , Kevin Hilman , Neil Armstrong , linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Phil Elwell , Linux ARM , Dave Stevenson , "open list:ARM/Amlogic Meson..." , DRI Development , Dom Cobley Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/35] drm/modes: Introduce 480i and 576i modes Message-ID: <20220829143357.rih7vmxnd434n5eo@houat> References: <20220818123934.eim2bfrgbxsmviqx@houat> <20220818134200.cr22bftmjn226ehn@houat> <20220818154641.ouvrar5s74qu74zn@houat> <6d1dfaad-7310-a596-34dd-4a6d9aa95f65@gmail.com> <20220829132953.sfv5yex2dhv76vrq@houat> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20220829_073408_183257_87730D27 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 19.32 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1532578520245002791==" Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============1532578520245002791== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kfxaklqvqri4mo47" Content-Disposition: inline --kfxaklqvqri4mo47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Maxime, >=20 > On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 3:30 PM Maxime Ripard wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 06:42:18PM +0200, Mateusz Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > - Speaking of closed captioning... a lot of different stuff were put = in the > > > blanking interval over the years. Like teletext in Europe. There ar= e projects > > > like VBIT2 which intentionally > > > reconfigure the Raspberry Pi composite output to include the blanki= ng interval > > > in the framebuffer so that teletext can be output by drawing on the= edge of > > > the "screen" (from the computer point of view). > > > > I'm not sure how we would support this in KMS to be honest. Asking for a > > wider mode and the userspace putting whatever it wants in the margins > > seems like a good choice. >=20 > s/wider/higher/ >=20 > Teletext is transmitted in the "visible" parts of (horizontal) lines, but= during > the vertical blank. Yeah, sorry I meant wider as in larger than the active area, without any direction in mind. 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