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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:41:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202210281041.3BD97D9@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221027092842.634714496@infradead.org>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:28:14AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Implement an alternative CFI scheme that merges both the fine-grained
> nature of kCFI but also takes full advantage of the coarse grained
> hardware CFI as provided by IBT.
> 
> To contrast:
> 
>   kCFI is a pure software CFI scheme and relies on being able to read
> text -- specifically the instruction *before* the target symbol, and
> does the hash validation *before* doing the call (otherwise control
> flow is compromised already).
> 
>   FineIBT is a software and hardware hybrid scheme; by ensuring every
> branch target starts with a hash validation it is possible to place
> the hash validation after the branch. This has several advantages:
> 
>    o the (hash) load is avoided; no memop; no RX requirement.
> 
>    o IBT WAIT-FOR-ENDBR state is a speculation stop; by placing
>      the hash validation in the immediate instruction after
>      the branch target there is a minimal speculation window
>      and the whole is a viable defence against SpectreBHB.
> 
>    o Kees feels obliged to mention it is slightly more vulnerable
>      when the attacker can write code.
> 
> Obviously this patch relies on kCFI, but additionally it also relies
> on the padding from the call-depth-tracking patches. It uses this
> padding to place the hash-validation while the call-sites are
> re-written to modify the indirect target to be 16 bytes in front of
> the original target, thus hitting this new preamble.
> 
> Notably, there is no hardware that needs call-depth-tracking (Skylake)
> and supports IBT (Tigerlake and onwards).
> 
> Suggested-by: Joao Moreira (Intel) <joao@overdrivepizza.com>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>

Reviewed-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>

-- 
Kees Cook

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-28 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-27  9:28 [PATCH 0/4] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27  9:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] objtool: Add --cfi to generate the .cfi_sites section Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-02  9:20   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27  9:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27 10:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-28 17:41   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2022-11-02  9:20   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27  9:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/cfi: Boot time selection of CFI scheme Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-28 17:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-11-02  9:19   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27  9:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86/cfi: Add boot time hash randomization Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-28 17:42   ` Kees Cook
2022-11-02  9:19   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-28 11:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT David Laight
2022-10-28 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra

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