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From: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 1/3] bpf: add bpf_link support for BPF_NETFILTER programs
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 18:41:23 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230323004123.lkdsxqqto55fs462@kashmir.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230303002752.GA4300@breakpoint.cc>

Hi Florian, Stan,

On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 01:27:52AM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com> wrote:
> > On 03/02, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > > +			struct {
> > > +				__u32		pf;
> > > +				__u32		hooknum;
> > > +				__s32		prio;
> > > +			} netfilter;
> > 
> > For recent tc BPF program extensions, we've discussed that it might be
> > better
> > to have an option to attach program before/after another one in the chain.
> > So the API essentially would receive a before/after flag + fd/id of the
> >
> > Should we do something similar here? See [0] for the original
> > discussion.
> > 
> > 0: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/YzzWDqAmN5DRTupQ@google.com/
> 
> Thanks for the pointer, I will have a look.
> 
> The above exposes the "prio" of netfilter hooks, so someone
> that needs their hook to run early on, say, before netfilters
> nat engine, could just use INT_MIN.
> 
> We could -- for nf bpf -- make the bpf_link fail if a hook
> with the same priority already exists to avoid the "undefined
> behaviour" here (same prio means register order decides what
> hook function runs first ...).
> 
> This could be relevant if you have e.g. one bpf program collecting
> statistics vs. one doing drops.
> 
> I'll dig though the thread and would try to mimic the tc link
> mechanism as close as possible.

While I think the direction the TC link discussion took is totally fine,
TC has the advantage (IIUC) of being a somewhat isolated hook. Meaning
it does not make sense for a user to mix priority values && before/after
semantics.

Netfilter is different in that there is by default modules active with
fixed priority values. So mixing in before/after semantics here could
get confusing.

Thanks,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-23  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-02 17:27 [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 0/3] bpf: add netfilter program type Florian Westphal
2023-03-02 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 1/3] bpf: add bpf_link support for BPF_NETFILTER programs Florian Westphal
2023-03-02 20:07   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-02 20:28   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-03  0:27     ` Florian Westphal
2023-03-23  0:41       ` Daniel Xu [this message]
2023-03-23 18:31         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-24 17:33           ` Daniel Xu
2023-03-24 17:58             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-24 18:22               ` Florian Westphal
2023-03-24 19:22                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-02 21:10   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-02 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 2/3] libbpf: sync header file, add nf prog section name Florian Westphal
2023-03-02 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 3/3] bpf: minimal support for programs hooked into netfilter framework Florian Westphal
2023-03-02 19:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-03-02 23:53     ` Florian Westphal
2023-03-03  0:06       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-03-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 bpf-next 0/3] bpf: add netfilter program type Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-03-23  0:36 ` Daniel Xu
2023-03-24 18:36   ` Florian Westphal

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