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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	dchinner@redhat.com, sandeen@redhat.com, willy@infradead.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, bfoster@redhat.com, jack@suse.cz,
	andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 05:35:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230707093553.j5ftk6t4tkgfhgz4@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230707-badeverbot-gekettet-19ce3c238dac@brauner>

On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > just merge it and let's move on to the next thing."
> 
> "and let the block and vfs maintainers and developers deal with the fallout"
> 
> is how that reads to others that deal with 65+ filesystems and counting.
> 
> The offlist thread that was started by Kent before this pr was sent has
> seen people try to outline calmly what problems they currently still
> have both maintenance wise and upstreaming wise. And it seems there's
> just no way this can go over calmly but instead requires massive amounts
> of defensive pushback and grandstanding.
> 
> Our main task here is to consider the concerns of people that constantly
> review and rework massive amounts of generic code. And I can't in good
> conscience see their concerns dismissed with snappy quotes.
> 
> I understand the impatience, I understand the excitement, I really do.
> But not in this way where core people just drop off because they don't
> want to deal with this anymore.
> 
> I've spent enough time on this thread.

Also, if you do feel like coming back to the discussion: I would still
like to hear in more detail about your specific pain points and talk
about what we can do to address them.

I've put a _ton_ of work into test infrastructure over the years, and
it's now scalable enough to handle fstests runs on every filesystem
fstests support - and it'll get you the results in short order.

I've started making the cluster available to other devs, and I'd be
happy to make it available to you as well. Perhaps there's other things
we could do.

Cheers,
Kent

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-26 21:46 [GIT PULL] bcachefs Kent Overstreet
2023-06-26 23:11 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27  0:06   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27  1:13     ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27  2:05       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27  2:59         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27  3:10           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 17:16           ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 20:15             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 22:05               ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-27 22:41                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 14:40                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 14:48                   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-06-28 14:58                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28  3:16               ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28  4:01                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 14:58                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 15:22                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 17:56                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:45                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 16:57                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 17:33                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-28 17:52                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:44                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 21:17                           ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:13                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 22:33                               ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:55                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 23:14                                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 23:50                                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29  1:00                                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-29  1:33                                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-29 11:18                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-29 14:17                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29 15:31                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-30  9:40                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-06 15:20                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 16:26                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-06 16:34                                                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29  1:29                                       ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-06 20:15                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 17:54                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:14                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 23:04                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 23:11                             ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27  2:33       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27  2:59         ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27  3:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-27  3:22             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27  3:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-27  4:36   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 15:56 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 16:40   ` Josef Bacik
2023-07-06 17:38     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 19:17       ` Eric Sandeen
2023-07-06 19:31         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 21:19       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-06 22:43         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 13:13           ` Jan Kara
2023-07-07 13:52             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07  8:48         ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-07  9:18           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 16:26             ` James Bottomley
2023-07-07 16:48               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 17:04                 ` James Bottomley
2023-07-07 17:26                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08  3:54               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-08  4:10                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08  4:31                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08 15:02                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-08 15:23                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08 16:42                 ` James Bottomley
2023-07-09  1:16                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07  9:35           ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-07-07  2:04       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-07 12:18       ` Brian Foster
2023-07-07 14:49         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12  2:54   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 19:48     ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 19:57       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 22:10     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-12 23:57       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-09  1:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 15:54       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-10 16:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 18:02           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-10 18:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 17:52         ` Jan Kara
2023-08-11  2:47           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11  8:10             ` Jan Kara
2023-08-11  8:13               ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-10 22:39         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-10 23:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11  2:40             ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-11  4:03             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11  5:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11  5:29                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11  5:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11  7:52                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-11 14:31                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-11  3:45           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-21  0:09             ` Dave Chinner
2023-08-10 23:07         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-11 10:54         ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-11 12:58           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-14  7:25             ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-14 15:23               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 13:21           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 22:56             ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-14  7:21             ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-14 15:27               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-03  3:25 Kent Overstreet
2023-09-05 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-06  0:00   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-06  0:41     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06 16:10       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-06 17:57         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-08  9:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-06 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 20:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 20:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 21:55       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:13         ` David Sterba
2023-09-06 23:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 23:46             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:53               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-10  0:53       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-07 20:37   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-07 20:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-07 23:40   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-08  6:29     ` Martin Steigerwald
2023-09-08  9:11     ` Joshua Ashton
2023-09-06 22:28 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-09-07  0:03   ` Kees Cook
2023-09-07 14:29     ` Chris Mason
2023-09-07 20:39     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-08 10:50       ` Brian Foster
2023-09-08 23:05     ` Dave Chinner

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