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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	J Smith <dark.panda@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] grep: simplify config parsing, change grep.<rx config> interaction
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2021 03:01:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <211109.86ee7qdqz0.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYms4czKVnQFWYQ+@nand.local>


On Mon, Nov 08 2021, Taylor Blau wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 10:10:53PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> I.e. a user would correctly expect this to keep working:
>>
>>     # ERE grep
>>     git -c grep.extendedRegexp=true grep <pattern>
>>
>> And likewise for "grep.patternType=default" to take precedence over
>> the disfavored "grep.extendedRegexp" option, i.e. the usual "last set
>> wins" semantics.
>>
>>     # BRE grep
>>     git -c grep.extendedRegexp=true -c grep.patternType=basic grep <pattern>
>>
>> But probably not for this to ignore the new "grep.patternType" option
>> entirely, say if /etc/gitconfig was still setting
>> "grep.extendedRegexp", but "~/.gitconfig" used the new
>> "grep.patternType" (and wanted to use the "default" value):
>>
>>     # Was ERE, now BRE
>>     git -c grep.extendedRegexp=true grep.patternType=default grep <pattern>
>
> OK, so this is the case that we'd be "breaking". And I think that the
> new behavior you're outlining here (where a higher-precedence
> grep.patternType=default overrides a lower-precedence
> grep.extendedRegexp=true, resulting in using BRE over ERE) makes more
> sense.
>
> At least, it makes more sense if your expectation of "default" is "the
> default matching behavior", not "fallthrough to grep.extendedRegexp".
>
> In any case, I am sensitive to breaking existing user workflows, but
> this seems so obscure to me that I have a hard time expecting that
> m(any?) users will even notice this at all.
>
> The situation I'm most concerned about is having grep.extendedRegexp set
> in, say, /etc/gitconfig and grep.patternType=default set at a
> higher-precedence level.

*nod*, but the only user who'd end up with that is someone who's trying
to override grep.extendedRegexp but failing to do it, so this would
help.

Or someone who'd read the docs, understood that we promised that would
do nothing, and inserted that just to test us, but that seems unlikely
:)

Or, I suppose someone who's entirely confused, and will continue being
even more confused now that behavior changes on a git upgrade from ERE
to BRE.

I'm hoping the last two paragraphs describe no-one & that this is safe
to do.

>> ---
>>  Documentation/config/grep.txt |  3 +-
>>  Documentation/git-grep.txt    |  3 +-
>
> Not the fault of your patch, but these two are annoyingly (and subtly)
> different from one another. Could we clean this up and put everything in
> Documentation/config/grep.txt (and then include that in the
> CONFIGURATION section of Documentation/git-grep.txt)?

I've got a large series to do that for all of these, but opted to skip
that particular digression here (even for just grep.txt it's a bit
distracting).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-09  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-06 21:10 [PATCH 0/8] grep: simplify & delete code by changing obscure cfg variable behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] git.c & grep.c: assert that "prefix" is NULL or non-zero string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 20:37   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] grep: remove unused "prefix_length" member Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 20:42   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] grep.c: move "prefix" out of "struct grep_opt" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 20:56   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:10     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10  0:18       ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 5/8] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 6/8] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 21:49   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10  0:18       ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 7/8] grep: simplify config parsing, change grep.<rx config> interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 23:04   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:01     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-11-10  0:16       ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-06 21:10 ` [PATCH 8/8] grep: make "extendedRegexp=true" the same as "patternType=extended" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10  1:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] grep: simplify & delete code by changing obscure cfg variable behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 16:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 16:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 17:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] grep docs: de-duplicate configuration sections Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 17:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 17:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 17:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] grep: simplify config parsing, change grep.<rx config> interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 19:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-13  9:55       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-10  1:43   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] grep: make "extendedRegexp=true" the same as "patternType=extended" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 19:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-10  2:23   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] grep: simplify & delete code by changing obscure cfg variable behavior Taylor Blau
2021-11-29 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-04  8:57       ` Tests in t4202 are aborted early, was: Re: [PATCH v3 2/7] log Fabian Stelzer
2022-03-04 10:05         ` [PATCH] log tests: fix "abort tests early" regression in ff37a60c369 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 21:52       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-03  0:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 14:50     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 21:06     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 21:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-03 10:19   ` [PATCH v4 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 1/7] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 2/7] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 3/7] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 4/7] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 5/7] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 6/7] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-03 10:19     ` [PATCH v4 7/7] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58     ` [PATCH v5 0/7] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 1/7] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 2/7] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 3/7] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-23 22:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-25  0:06           ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2021-12-25  0:19             ` [RFC/PATCH] grep: allow scripts to ignore configured pattern type Junio C Hamano
2021-12-26 23:09               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-25  1:04             ` Re* [PATCH v5 3/7] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config test Junio C Hamano
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 4/7] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 5/7] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 6/7] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  2:58       ` [PATCH v5 7/7] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-23 22:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-23  0:30       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Junio C Hamano
2021-12-26 22:37       ` [PATCH v6 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 1/7] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 2/7] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 3/7] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 4/7] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 5/7] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 6/7] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26 22:37         ` [PATCH v6 7/7] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-27  6:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-27 18:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-28  1:07         ` [PATCH v7 00/10] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 01/10] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 02/10] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 03/10] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 04/10] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 05/10] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 06/10] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 07/10] grep.h: make "grep_opt.pattern_type_option" use its enum Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 08/10] grep.c: do "if (bool && memchr())" not "if (memchr() && bool)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 09/10] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28  1:07           ` [PATCH v7 10/10] grep.[ch]: remove GREP_PATTERN_TYPE_UNSPECIFIED Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55           ` [PATCH v8 00/10] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 01/10] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 02/10] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 03/10] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 04/10] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 05/10] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 06/10] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 07/10] grep.h: make "grep_opt.pattern_type_option" use its enum Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 08/10] grep.c: do "if (bool && memchr())" not "if (memchr() && bool)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 09/10] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 22:50               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-18 22:55                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-19  0:17                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-19  1:09                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-19  1:15                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 15:55             ` [PATCH v8 10/10] grep.[ch]: remove GREP_PATTERN_TYPE_UNSPECIFIED Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56             ` [PATCH v9 0/9] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 1/9] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 2/9] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 3/9] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 4/9] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 5/9] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 6/9] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 7/9] grep.h: make "grep_opt.pattern_type_option" use its enum Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 8/9] grep.c: do "if (bool && memchr())" not "if (memchr() && bool)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 11:56               ` [PATCH v9 9/9] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 20:30                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-27 21:35                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-27 21:39                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04 21:20               ` [PATCH v10 0/9] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 23:03                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04 23:24                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] grep.h: make "grep_opt.pattern_type_option" use its enum Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] grep.c: do "if (bool && memchr())" not "if (memchr() && bool)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 21:20                 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 23:41                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-16  0:00                 ` [PATCH v11 00/10] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 01/10] grep.h: remove unused "regex_t regexp" from grep_opt Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 02/10] log tests: check if grep_config() is called by "log"-like cmds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 03/10] grep tests: create a helper function for "BRE" or "ERE" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 04/10] grep tests: add missing "grep.patternType" config tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 05/10] built-ins: trust the "prefix" from run_builtin() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 06/10] grep.c: don't pass along NULL callback value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 07/10] grep API: call grep_config() after grep_init() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 08/10] grep.h: make "grep_opt.pattern_type_option" use its enum Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 09/10] grep.c: do "if (bool && memchr())" not "if (memchr() && bool)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  0:00                   ` [PATCH v11 10/10] grep: simplify config parsing and option parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  2:20                   ` [PATCH v11 00/10] grep: simplify & delete "init" & "config" code Junio C Hamano

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