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From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Re: Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:36:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21693.2150.308197.875742@chiark.greenend.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BCEA910200007800056536@mail.emea.novell.com>

Jan Beulich writes ("[Xen-devel] [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Re: Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem"):
> LGTM, but I think there's no point in ack-ing the series as the
> changes need to be voted on anyway.

Indeed.

I will post a v2 with the minor fixes from this thread incorporated.

> One thing I'm missing though is some statement regarding the
> handling of existing list members when the policy changes (while
> the agreement given by them during the application process was
> only for an earlier version).

I don't think this is necessary in this case.  The questions which are
explicitly addressed in the policy now are almost all (a)
clarifications of things which were unclear before and which in the
past the Security Team have had to answer, and (b) resolved in a
permissive way.

The exception is the possibility that deployment of a particular fix
would be forbidden.  But if that were to arise, it would be stated
clearly in the advisory text.  I don't think we need to explicitly
invite predisclosure list members to agree to such a statement, given
the vagueness of the existing policy.

I have deliberately not included a requalification process in this
series of changes.  I would like to leave that to a later update.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-08 15:54 Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Xen Project Security Team
2014-10-08 23:06 ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-08 23:55   ` Lars Kurth
2014-10-09  9:37     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-09 11:24       ` George Dunlap
2014-10-09 16:19         ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-10 14:25         ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-13 12:17           ` George Dunlap
2014-10-29 13:27             ` James Bulpin
2015-01-19 20:36               ` James McKenzie
2015-01-20  8:54                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:29                 ` George Dunlap
2015-02-12 10:44                 ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 18:01     ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-11 12:39       ` John Haxby
2014-11-12 18:09       ` George Dunlap
2014-11-13 17:36         ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-14 12:10       ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-14 12:50         ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-14 17:37           ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-16 19:23         ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:48         ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] " Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52           ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 1/9] Grammar fix: Remove a comma splice Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 2/9] Add headings Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 3/9] Deployment with Security Team Permission Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 10:20               ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 11:18                 ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 13:38                   ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 14:25                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 15:55                     ` George Dunlap
2015-01-19 19:48                       ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 12:36                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:50                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 12:35               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:08                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 13:10                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 4/9] Use a public mailing list for predisclosure membership applications Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 12:49               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:10                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 13:19                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 16:21                     ` Don Koch
2015-01-19 17:57                     ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 5/9] Tighten, and make more objective, predisclosure list application Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 6/9] Explicitly permit within-list information sharing during embargo Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 7/9] Clarify and fix prior consultation text Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 8/9] Clarify what announcements may be made by to service users Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 9/9] Document changes in changelog and heading Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 10:29           ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Re: Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 13:36             ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2015-01-19 19:45               ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 14:57           ` George Dunlap
2015-01-23 19:31           ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] " Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 1/9] Grammar fix: Remove a comma splice Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 2/9] Add headings Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 3/9] Deployment with Security Team Permission Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 4/9] Use a public mailing list for predisclosure membership applications Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 5/9] Tighten, and make more objective, predisclosure list application Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 6/9] Explicitly permit within-list information sharing during embargo Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 7/9] Clarify and fix prior consultation text Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 8/9] Clarify what announcements may be made by to service users Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 9/9] Document changes in changelog and heading Ian Jackson
2015-02-02 17:27             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Ian Jackson
2015-02-03  9:49               ` Lars Kurth
2014-10-09 11:09   ` George Dunlap
2014-10-10 14:47   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-13 11:23     ` George Dunlap
2014-10-13 12:16     ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 17:25       ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-29 13:27     ` James Bulpin
2014-11-10 17:21     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-21 12:32   ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 14:31     ` Matt Wilson
2014-10-21 15:06       ` Jan Beulich
2014-11-10 17:29       ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-10 17:39         ` George Dunlap
2014-11-10 18:04           ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-30 11:58     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-31 22:40       ` Matt Wilson
2014-11-03 11:37         ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 17:23           ` Matt Wilson
2014-11-05 11:17         ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-06 16:01           ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 12:35             ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 23:23   ` Bastian Blank
2014-10-29 13:27     ` James Bulpin
2014-11-10 17:42     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-09  8:29 ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-09  8:45   ` Processed: " xen
2014-10-29 13:27 ` James Bulpin
2014-10-30 10:51   ` Tim Deegan

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