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From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mickael.salaun@ssi.gouv.fr>
To: Matthew Bobrowski <mbobrowski@mbobrowski.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@google.com>,
	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Philippe Trébuchet" <philippe.trebuchet@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Thibaut Sautereau" <thibaut.sautereau@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Vincent Strubel" <vincent.strubel@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Yves-Alexis Perez" <yves-alexis.perez@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, sgrubb@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] fs: Add support for an O_MAYEXEC flag on sys_open()
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:23:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22489759-076e-206a-e367-c13202f05eea@ssi.gouv.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181213094658.GA996@lithium.mbobrowski.org>


On 13/12/2018 10:47, Matthew Bobrowski wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 03:43:06PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> When the O_MAYEXEC flag is passed, sys_open() may be subject to
>>> additional restrictions depending on a security policy implemented by an
>>> LSM through the inode_permission hook.
>>>
>>> The underlying idea is to be able to restrict scripts interpretation
>>> according to a policy defined by the system administrator.  For this to
>>> be possible, script interpreters must use the O_MAYEXEC flag
>>> appropriately.  To be fully effective, these interpreters also need to
>>> handle the other ways to execute code (for which the kernel can't help):
>>> command line parameters (e.g., option -e for Perl), module loading
>>> (e.g., option -m for Python), stdin, file sourcing, environment
>>> variables, configuration files...  According to the threat model, it may
>>> be acceptable to allow some script interpreters (e.g. Bash) to interpret
>>> commands from stdin, may it be a TTY or a pipe, because it may not be
>>> enough to (directly) perform syscalls.
>>>
>>> A simple security policy implementation is available in a following
>>> patch for Yama.
>>>
>>> This is an updated subset of the patch initially written by Vincent
>>> Strubel for CLIP OS:
>>> https://github.com/clipos-archive/src_platform_clip-patches/blob/f5cb330d6b684752e403b4e41b39f7004d88e561/1901_open_mayexec.patch
>>> This patch has been used for more than 10 years with customized script
>>> interpreters.  Some examples can be found here:
>>> https://github.com/clipos-archive/clipos4_portage-overlay/search?q=O_MAYEXEC
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net>
>>> Signed-off-by: Thibaut Sautereau <thibaut.sautereau@ssi.gouv.fr>
>>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Strubel <vincent.strubel@ssi.gouv.fr>
>>> Reviewed-by: Philippe Trébuchet <philippe.trebuchet@ssi.gouv.fr>
>>> Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
>>> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>>> Cc: Mickaël Salaün <mickael.salaun@ssi.gouv.fr>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> diff --git a/fs/open.c b/fs/open.c
>>> index 0285ce7dbd51..75479b79a58f 100644
>>> --- a/fs/open.c
>>> +++ b/fs/open.c
>>> @@ -974,6 +974,10 @@ static inline int build_open_flags(int flags, umode_t mode, struct open_flags *o
>>>  	if (flags & O_APPEND)
>>>  		acc_mode |= MAY_APPEND;
>>>  
>>> +	/* Check execution permissions on open. */
>>> +	if (flags & O_MAYEXEC)
>>> +		acc_mode |= MAY_OPENEXEC;
>>> +
>>>  	op->acc_mode = acc_mode;
>>>  
>>>  	op->intent = flags & O_PATH ? 0 : LOOKUP_OPEN;
>>
>> I don't feel experienced enough in security to tell whether we want this
>> functionality or not. But if we do this, shouldn't we also set FMODE_EXEC
>> on the resulting struct file? That way also security_file_open() can be
>> used to arbitrate such executable opens and in particular
>> fanotify permission event FAN_OPEN_EXEC will get properly generated which I
>> guess is desirable (support for it is sitting in my tree waiting for the
>> merge window) - adding some audit people involved in FAN_OPEN_EXEC to
>> CC. Just an idea...
> 
> If I'm understanding this patch series correctly, without an enforced LSM
> policy there's realistically no added benefit from a security perspective,
> right?

That's correct. The kernel knows the semantic but the enforcement is
delegated to an LSM and its policy.

> Also, I'm in agreement with what Jan has mentioned in regards to setting
> the __FMODE_EXEC flag when O_MAYEXEC has been specified. This is something that
> would work quite nicely in conjunction with some of the new file access
> notification events.

OK, I will add it in the next patch series (for the new FAN_OPEN_EXEC
support).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-13 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-12  8:17 [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] fs: Add support for an O_MAYEXEC flag on sys_open() Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:43   ` Jan Kara
2018-12-12 14:43     ` Jan Kara
2018-12-12 14:43     ` Jan Kara
2018-12-12 17:09     ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 20:42     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13  9:47     ` Matthew Bobrowski
2018-12-13  9:47       ` Matthew Bobrowski
2018-12-13  9:47       ` Matthew Bobrowski
2018-12-13 14:23       ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2019-04-15 18:47     ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-15 18:47       ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-16 11:49       ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-16 11:49         ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-16 15:34         ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-16 15:34           ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-17 10:01           ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-17 10:01             ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-17 15:04             ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-17 15:04               ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-17 14:55       ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-08-04 23:55     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-04 23:55       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-04 23:55       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-06 16:40       ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-08-06 16:40         ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/5] fs: Add a MAY_EXECMOUNT flag to infer the noexec mount propertie Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/5] Yama: Enforces noexec mounts or file executability through O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:28   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:28     ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 17:09   ` Jann Horn
2018-12-13 14:49     ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 14:49       ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-03 11:17       ` Jann Horn
2019-01-08 13:29         ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-08 23:30           ` Kees Cook
2019-01-08 23:30             ` Kees Cook
2019-01-09 13:41             ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/5] selftest/yama: Add tests for O_MAYEXEC enforcing Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/5] doc: Add documentation for Yama's open_mayexec_enforce Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Jordan Glover
2018-12-12 16:29   ` Jordan Glover
2018-12-12 17:01   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 17:01     ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 19:51 ` James Morris
2018-12-12 19:51   ` James Morris
2018-12-12 20:13   ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-12 23:40     ` James Morris
2018-12-13  5:13       ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 14:57         ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13  3:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13  3:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13  5:22   ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13  5:22     ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 11:04   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 11:26     ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 11:26       ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 12:16       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 12:16         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 12:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 12:16       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 15:17   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 17:13       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 17:36       ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:44         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 17:44           ` Matthew Wilcox

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