From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753228AbbKCDg4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:36:56 -0500 Received: from v094114.home.net.pl ([79.96.170.134]:56136 "HELO v094114.home.net.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751275AbbKCDgz (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:36:55 -0500 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Dave Chinner Cc: Jiri Kosina , Alan Stern , Pavel Machek , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Jan Kara , Christoph Hellwig , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Tejun Heo , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:06:01 +0100 Message-ID: <2254911.sCQ2smOA47@vostro.rjw.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.5 (Linux/4.1.0-rc5+; KDE/4.11.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20151103001053.GL10656@dastard> References: <2258525.D9qdTJBeTN@vostro.rjw.lan> <20151103001053.GL10656@dastard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:10:53 AM Dave Chinner wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 03:43:07AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > I guess it may also helps to address the case when a device is removed from a > > suspended system, written to on another system in the meantime and inserted > > back into the (still suspended) original system which then is resumed. Today > > this is an almost guaranteed data corruption scenario, but if the filesystem in > > question is properly frozen during suspend, the driver should be able to detect > > superblock changes during unfreeze. > > Never going to work. There is no guarantee that a write to a > filesystem by a third party device is going to change the superblock > (or any metadata in the rest of the filesystem) in any detectable > way. Hence freezing filesystems will not prevent Bad Things > Happening if you do this while your system is suspended. OK, thanks for the clarification. Cheers, Rafael