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From: Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>, Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Manuel Bouyer <bouyer@antioche.eu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char' [and 1 more messages]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:53:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24593.28738.216430.891500@mariner.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2452d5cb-90ba-a4c4-a5e4-3070c5a676d2@suse.com>, <27ec4834-ebf2-2121-47f7-470083d03a3f@suse.com>

Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char'"):
> I did read that part of the spec before replying.

I find this quite astonishing.  You claimed that FreeBSD's libc was
buggy *after having read the spec to which you agree it conforms*.

>   Irrespective of the wording there it seems entirely unreasonable
> to me for the spec to imply all use sites of the is...() functions
> to have to use casts. Even more so that we all know (I suppose) that
> casts can be dangerous as both potentially introducing bugs (perhaps
> not at the point of their addition, but later when code elsewhere
> gets changed) and keeping analysis tools from actually spotting
> ones.

Nevertheless, this is the design of the C standard.  A common approach
to this problem is something like this (from libxl_internal.h):

  /*
   * int CTYPE(ISFOO, char c);
   * int CTYPE(toupper, char c);
   * int CTYPE(tolower, char c);
   *
   * This is necessary because passing a simple char to a ctype.h
   * is forbidden.  ctype.h macros take ints derived from _unsigned_ chars.
   *
   * If you have a char which might be EOF then you should already have
   * it in an int representing an unsigned char, and you can use the
   * <ctype.h> macros directly.  This generally happens only with values
   * from fgetc et al.
   *
   * For any value known to be a character (eg, anything that came from
   * a char[]), use CTYPE.
   */
  #define CTYPE(isfoo,c) (isfoo((unsigned char)(c)))

Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char'"):
> On 27.01.2021 09:31, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > But yes, I'm not the maintainer of this code, so if you're
> > happy with such risks, so be it.
> 
> And actually I was only partly right here - there's one hunk
> here affecting code I'm the maintainer just as much as you
> are. At least there I'd like to ask that ...
> 
> > For the record, to me the less risky approach here would seem
> > to have been to make use of compilers allowing to choose
> > whether plain char is signed or unsigned, and force it to
> > unsigned for at least the affected components.
> 
> ... this be considered as an alternative, before I maybe
> withdraw my de-facto nak.

Whether char is signed or unsigned is generally specified in the
platform API/ABI.  Deviating from this for userland code is not
possible or reasonable since it would involve processing the system
headers with a deviant langauge definition!

Deviating from it for hypervisor code would be possible but I think it
would be unwise.

Ian.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-12 18:12 [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char' Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD: Fix lock directory path Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 15:09   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-15 15:13     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 15:30       ` Andrew Cooper
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD hotplug: Introduce locking functions Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-27 15:57   ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-27 19:29     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-28 14:05       ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD hotplug: fix block unconfigure on destroy Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 15:27   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-26 16:47     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-27  9:40       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-27  9:47         ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD hotplug: handle case where vifname is not present Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 16:06   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-26 16:49     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD: remove xenbackendd Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 15:31   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-18 18:31     ` Andrew Cooper
2021-01-18 18:41       ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] NetBSD: use system-provided headers Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 16:01   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] gdbsx: use right path for privcmd Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:03   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-18 18:45     ` Andrew Cooper
2021-01-18 19:05       ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/call: fix build on NetBSD Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/evtchn: " Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:01   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/foreignmemory: Implement " Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 17:49   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/gnttab: implement " Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 17:54   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-26 17:05     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-27  9:31       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/light: Switch NetBSD to QEMU_XEN Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 17:28   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/light: fix tv_sec printf format Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:19   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/light: fix uuid on NetBSD Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 17:27   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/light: make it build without setresuid() Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:16   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-20 14:52     ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-20 15:13       ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-20 15:32         ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-20 16:56           ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-20 17:10             ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-20 17:20               ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-20 17:29                 ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-27 16:03                   ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-27 19:34                     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-28 11:39                       ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-30 11:57                         ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/light: pass some infos to qemu Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-16 10:16   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-16 11:25     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18  8:36       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-18  8:52         ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18  9:07           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-18  9:24             ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-26 22:42         ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-27  9:06           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-27  9:49             ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] libs/store: make build without PTHREAD_STACK_MIN Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:18   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-18 18:56   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-01-18 19:05     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] ocaml/libs/eventchn: drop unneeded evtchn.h Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-13  9:22   ` Christian Lindig
2021-01-13  9:40     ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] xenpaging.c: include errno.h Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-15 16:08   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] xenpmd.c: use dynamic allocation Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-27 15:57   ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-12 18:12 ` [PATCH] xenstat_netbsd: remove usused code Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-18 18:06   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-14 10:53 ` [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char' Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 12:29   ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-14 13:25     ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 14:16       ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-26 17:44         ` Manuel Bouyer
2021-01-26 17:59           ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-27  8:31             ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-27  8:37               ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-27 13:53                 ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2021-01-27 14:33                   ` [PATCH] Fix error: array subscript has type 'char' [and 1 more messages] Jan Beulich
2021-01-27 16:21                     ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-27 16:32                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-27 16:52                         ` George Dunlap
2021-01-27 17:00                           ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-27 17:00                           ` Ian Jackson
2021-01-18 19:08 ` NetBSD patches Andrew Cooper
2021-01-18 19:11   ` Manuel Bouyer

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