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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>,
	"open list:X86" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: specify stability of hypfs path documentation
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:24:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2567da9b-be43-3f0d-e213-562b5454f4b7@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c681c7c-be69-7e1a-4cd9-c9e05fe85372@suse.com>

On 16.07.2020 12:31, Jürgen Groß wrote:
> On 16.07.20 12:11, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 15.07.2020 16:37, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> IT sounds like you’re saying:
>>>
>>> 1. Paths listed without conditions will always be available
>>>
>>> 2. Paths listed with conditions may be extended: i.e., a node currently listed as PV might also become available for HVM guests
>>>
>>> 3. Paths listed with conditions might have those conditions reduced, but will never entirely disappear.  So something currently listed as PV might be reduced to CONFIG_HAS_FOO, but won’t be completely removed.
>>>
>>> Is that what you meant?
>>
>> I see Jürgen replied "yes" to this, but I'm not sure about 1.
>> above: I think it's quite reasonable to expect that paths without
>> condition may gain a condition. Just like paths now having a
>> condition and (perhaps temporarily) losing it shouldn't all of
>> the sudden become "always available" when they weren't meant to
>> be.
>>
>> As far a 3. goes, I'm also unsure in how far this is any better
>> stability wise (from a consumer pov) than allowing paths to
>> entirely disappear.
> 
> The idea is that any user tool using hypfs can rely on paths under 1 to
> exist, while the ones under 3 might not be there due to the hypervisor
> config or the used system.
> 
> A path not being allowed to entirely disappear ensures that it remains
> in the documentation, so the same path can't be reused for something
> different in future.

And then how do you deal with a condition getting dropped, and
later wanting to get re-added? Do we need a placeholder condition
like [ALWAYS] or [TRUE]?

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-16 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 14:03 [PATCH v2] docs: specify stability of hypfs path documentation Juergen Gross
2020-07-13 14:47 ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-15 14:37   ` George Dunlap
2020-07-15 14:41     ` Jürgen Groß
2020-07-16 10:11     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-16 10:31       ` Jürgen Groß
2020-07-16 11:24         ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2020-07-16 11:34           ` Jürgen Groß
2020-07-16 14:20             ` George Dunlap
2020-07-16 14:34               ` Jürgen Groß
2020-07-20 10:19                 ` George Dunlap
2020-07-20 11:00                   ` Jürgen Groß

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