From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Takashi Sakamoto Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/13] ASoC: Add SoundWire stream programming interface Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:03:31 +0900 Message-ID: <25fffedb-4dea-e688-4005-b4ca8647d305@sakamocchi.jp> References: <1522229918-4748-1-git-send-email-vinod.koul@intel.com> <1522229918-4748-9-git-send-email-vinod.koul@intel.com> <355ca9b5-d6c4-9423-8cf6-a1c73fbdc695@sakamocchi.jp> <20180330060325.GA9729@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from smtp-proxy003.phy.lolipop.jp (smtp-proxy003.phy.lolipop.jp [157.7.104.44]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A6267654 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2018 07:03:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: Takashi Iwai Cc: ALSA , Vinod Koul , Greg KH , Pierre-Louis Bossart , liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com, patches.audio@intel.com, broonie@kernel.org, Shreyas NC List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Hi, On Apr 3 2018 21:03, Takashi Iwai wrote: >>>> It's better for this kind of code to be incline function in any header. In >>>> general, new symbols increase maintenance cost of binary of kernel-related >>>> stuffs. It's preferable to avoid the addition if possible, IMO. >>> >>> I don't understand, functionally it's the same, there should not be any >>> increased maintenance either way. Please explain how this makes things >>> "harder"? >> >> Hm, if so it might be my misunderstanding to reasons for typical usage >> of inline functions in kernel source, sorry. >> >> In my understanding, exported symbols are put into some sections of >> ELF binary. Addition of new symbols increases size of the >> section. Additionally, after linking vmlinux, kbuild scans built-in >> symbols and make a file with entries of them. The addition increases >> time of this step. Furthermore, at the end of building kernel, kmod is >> called to generate some map files for exported symbols in loadable >> module. In a view of distributors, these files are maintained by >> binary packages of any type carefully because some incompatibilities >> can be delivered such as version mismatch. >> >> For these reasons, I think thing goes harder when people carelessly >> add new symbols for functions with a few codes; e.g. accessing to a >> member of structure, then simply check an return it. Actually I can >> see some examples in upstreamed headers. > > The advantage of inline function isn't about the maintenance cost. > It's mostly for performance, as well as the binary size reduction. > > Actually, when a kernel live-patching comes into play, an inline > function is worse from the maintenance POV. Then we'd have to patch > every place that is expanded instead of a single place. > > However, this doesn't discourage the use of inline function, either. I'm OK for this view, and let me add it to my criteria for my daily reviewing work. Thanks for sharing the view. > Overall, the performance is still the most important factor for major > cases. So I agree with that this particular case can be well inlined, > supposing that no complex code is planned to be added in future. I agree with it as well. When developers add more complexity to content of the inline function, then let them convert it to exported symbols. Thanks Takashi Sakamoto