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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Yi Zhang <yi.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Draft NVDIMM proposal
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 19:33:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <260a5bae-e878-3c85-ee1a-e5ee56506431__8397.02232410691$1526409195$gmane$org@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4huEso9OHG65UvMh9vOp-yHOR9sptKpzSC_HhhtgbihOg@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/05/18 19:06, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:19 AM, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 05/11/2018 05:33 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
>>
>> This is all pretty foundational.  Xen can read static ACPI tables, but
>> it can't do AML.  So to do a proper design for Xen, we need to know:
> Oooh, ok, no AML in Xen...
>
>> 1. If Xen can find out, without Linux's help, what namespaces exist and
>> if there is one it can use for its own purposes
> Yeah, no, not without calling AML methods.

One particularly thorny issue with Xen's architecture is the ownership
of the ACPI OSPM, and the fact that there can only be one in the
system.  Dom0 has to be the OSPM in practice, as we don't want to port
most of the Linux drivers and infrastructure in the hypervisor.

If we knew a priori that certain AML methods had no side effects, then
we could in principle execute them from the hypervisor, but this is an
undecideable problem in general.  As a result, everything involving AML
requires dom0 to decipher the information and passing it to Xen at boot.

~Andrew

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-15 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-09 17:29 Draft NVDIMM proposal George Dunlap
2018-05-09 17:35 ` George Dunlap
2018-05-11 16:33   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-11 16:33   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-15 10:05     ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-05-15 10:05     ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-05-15 10:12       ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 10:12       ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 12:26         ` Jan Beulich
2018-05-15 12:26         ` Jan Beulich
2018-05-15 13:05           ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 13:05           ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 17:33           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-15 17:33           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-15 14:19     ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 14:19     ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 18:06       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-15 18:33         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-05-15 18:33         ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2018-05-17 14:52         ` George Dunlap
2018-05-23  0:31           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-23  0:31           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-17 14:52         ` George Dunlap
2018-05-15 18:06       ` Dan Williams

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