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From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Time Zone Mailing List <tz@iana.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [tz] "time zone" vs "timezone" in documentation
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 01:52:19 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26348.1529693539@jinx.noi.kre.to> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2892e775-1503-ac52-4401-785bef9b1284@cs.ucla.edu>

Working out when an expression formed out of two words has turned into
a new word is always something of a black art - yet it happens all the time.

Consider cutthroat or bullshit - clearly words these days, but not always.
Or more relevantly perhaps, timecard, timepiece or timetable.

Whether timezone, timestamp, or filesystem have reached that state yet
or not isn't clear - personally, I think they have (and without any wishy
washy "a timezone is a technical thing in tzdb and time zone is an area
with a common offset from UTC (for some period)".

It is also worth noting that the way the transition happens, is for people
to simply start writing (and saying, though I think that's definitely
already happened for the cases in question) the word pair as a single
word and ignoring the "that's not correct" criticism. 

In my early schooldays (another one) I was taught that the digit '0' was
definitely not 'Oh' (that's a letter) and nor was it "zero" (that's American
invented nonsense) but a "nought".   I can't even imagine the last time I
heard anyone use that though (decades ago).  The language is continually
changing, and we all need to keep up, and not persist in "I was taught..."

kre

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-22 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20180619013049.4097-1-eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
     [not found] ` <9838498d-0dc2-b51f-08af-fb447196cce5@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <26ec9696-f120-15e7-9d9f-9a66eefce9a0@cs.ucla.edu>
2018-06-22 16:18     ` [tz] "time zone" vs "timezone" in documentation Paul Eggert
2018-06-22 18:21       ` Philip Paeps
2018-06-27 19:46       ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-04  7:35         ` Walter Harms
2018-06-22 18:52     ` Robert Elz [this message]
2018-06-22 19:54       ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-22 20:14       ` Clive D.W. Feather

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